Hi,

I installed MUICON, and it fells realy good for me. But I'm having a
litle trouble.
The screen refresh is not good.
Usualy I have the left side good and the write sid not refreshed.
Here is a grab.
http://serge.free.free.fr/Pegasos/trasnch-muicon.jpg

I need help .

I give you the good old "has not happened on my system"

er... neither on mine
any patch or weird stuff running?

I haven't seen that either.

Don't you hate it when you have a unique problem?

--Aaron

I think you should write to Jacek (he is responsible for MUICON). I'm almost sure he will try to help you.

He must have earned the problem.. theres no stopping gods wrath

@hooligan

Figures; he's using the AOS4 skin

@Serge: I encountered the same problem when using Meridian (which you seem to be using as well: what a coincidence :))

=> I set a mouse gesture that maximised the window. When using it on a MUICon window, the window is maximized but its content is not refreshed: this produces the kind of glitches we can see on your grab. Actually, only the parts corresponding to the previous size of the MUICon window are refreshed... as if MUICon was not aware of the resize.

I thought it was a problem related to Meridian so I contacted the author and got the usual "I can't reproduce it so you must have a problem with your configuration" but after all, it may be related to MUICon...

Leo.

PS: Sorry guys, I'm not using an OS4 skin so something else must be blamed...

[ Edited by Leo on 2005/1/12 2:44 ]

hey, that skin is cool ;D
(but it reminds me, that i should finally upload the updated versions, which now don`t crop or stretch the Titlebar )

[ Edited by Bladerunner on 2005/1/12 4:45 ]

I'd say you've got some weird problem causing bogus window resize. No idea how could this happen, contact me when the next MUICON comes out and I'll try to fix it (in case it would still happen).

@Jaca:
Jacek, I think it is obvious reason. Notice, he managed some way to use non-monospaced font in the MUICON window (maybe because of using an old asl.library). You assume while rendering the font is monospaced.

@Serge:
Use monospaced font and all will be OK. MUICON does not support proportional fonts AFAIK.

Quote:

Ok, good idea.
But how can I know if I use a monospaced font or not? which is the difference?

Well, if we say about this here...
Using 0x1B,[ sequence instead of 0x8B is a REALLY BAD IDEA. This breaks all ncurses-oriented software (i use one for example). Arrow keys really don't work. I know that this removes problems with ssh'ing to UNIX boxes but i think this should be switcheable on and off with for example menu item like "Use 7-bit control codes".
And one more: it seems to wrap lines when not asked for. I see this when i start mc (my GeekGadgets port). An empty line is inserted between lines. I suspect that when cursor reaches right margin it automatically jumps to the next line, instead it should jump there only if one more character is printed. So i get two carriadge returns instead of only one.
If you need a screenshot i can supply one.

@Leo

> I thought it was a problem related to Meridian so I contacted the author and got the usual "I can't reproduce it so you must have a problem with your configuration" but after all, it may be related to MUICon...

That's not true! I told you that I use a System-function for WindowResizing, so the update problem must be a problem on your system.

Guido Mersmann

@Leo: true :) But you also said (quote):

"I was at a Amiga User Metting today and asked the MorphOS people around.
They all don't have any trouble with running CLI tools and scripts, so I would expect a problem on your system."

The usual stuff :)

Anyway, Krashcan: can you elaborate on this proportionnal fonts issue ? How can you know you're using a proportional one or not,... ?

Leo.

> "I was at a Amiga User Metting today and asked the MorphOS people around.
> They all don't have any trouble with running CLI tools and scripts, so I would expect a problem on your system."

Ok, that's true, but it's not the answer to the same problem. Above you talked about the refresh problem and this is about the CLI execution.

The usual stuff :)

> The refresh routine is just calling an OS window resize function and anything following is up to the OS and the window owner task. Meridian is not performing any window refresh on it's own.
And just to explain the reason for the "usual" answer with the execution problem:

1. I don't have a Pegasos, so I cannot try to reproduce anything.

2. There are currently >400 downloads from MorphZone, so I expect around 200 users without such problem. (except you)

3. The 68K version exists for years and the code is very simple.

4. I asked several persons personally and they do not have any trouble with the CLI mode.

Don't misunderstand I do not blame you for writing that.

It's just that I am not a guy telling anyone "It's not my fault!" without a good reason. :)

Guido Mersmann

@Guido: MUICon was an example of a program having refresh problems -when using your tool to maximize the window-... I haven't got any problems with "cli tools" apart from that :)

>There are currently >400 downloads from MorphZone, so I expect around 200 users without such problem.

No offence but seeing no one except me have mentionned the problems with the settings (no key support, no closewindow, and even more according to you), it seems no one has gone very far with it... except me.

And I'm not the only one: I did not create this thread as you can see...

We'll see what happens with next MUICon release anyway...

Leo.

It is not a meridian related problem.
The problem is present when I dont start meridin server.


COLL !
I edit this post because I changed my fonts to a very standar : TOPAZ
and now all works fine.
No more bad refresh.
Thank you guys .

[ Edited by serge on 2005/1/13 5:15 ]

Your TERM variable is just set to a wrong value, set it to linux.

PTerm's prefs should not allow you to choose a proportional font (= a font with variable char width). Either your font is broken or there's a bug in diskfont or asl you're using. Hardly PowerTerm's fault.

@ Bladerunner:

Where can I download your SKIN please?

@jacadcaps

Don't remember if I have remembered to thank You for MUICON.. absolutely fabulous work mate!

1. TERM is set to 'morphos'. And this is correct. mc works with standard console with this setting.
2. I mean mc launched on my Pegasos, not on some remote Linux box.
3. Setting LINUX will break function keys, they currently work. It seems to be that only arrow keys send 0x1B sequences, function keys are left as 0x8B.

@ Jacadcaps

Thank you very much for this excelent software.
MUICON

Anyway, Krashcan: can you elaborate on this proportionnal fonts issue ? How can you know you're using a proportional one or not,... ?

Fonts can be divided to fixedwidth (called also monospaced), like Topaz or Courier, and proportional fonts (where every letter can have different width) like Times or Helvetica. MUICON works only with fixedwidth fonts (as every console). PTerm prefs do not allow to choose proportional font so I'm wondering how Serge managed to set one. Probably broken diskfont or broken font.