@Piru

I think that was a good response.

Devs:netinterfaces is empty drawer for me, nothing to doubleclick. On top of that Roadshows uninstall broke the MorphOS bootsequence, had to boot from cd and manually remove roadshow related stuff from s:user-startup. This definetely won't go as news as it is :)

hooligan,
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Did you read the installation guide? :) You have to manually copy wanted config file from the Storage/NetInterfaces to Devs/NetInterfaces and in this case also edit it for correct devices.

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Of course not, I just followed Dragsters instructions, which were:

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Manually copying.. editing.. I thought we started 2013, not 1993 :)

hooligan,
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Even if the installer isnt perfect nor made to work with Morphos installation standards, atleast Morphos came abit closer to 2013 network performance, i've never seen any morphos network stack perform this good, testing with ambient drag'n'drop copy from my nas to ramdisk, its constantly over 14MB/s, OWB flies compared to before, and its a emulated 68k tcp stack. I havent begin to tweaked stuff yet(tcp.sendspace/tcp.recvspace,filebuffers) and i want to(try) configure it for 68k 2.2.5 samba

I don't doubt the quality of the stack one bit, but for a commercial software it really should be more straight forward than this. I myself will continue to use Windoze till the network issues are fixed as browsing on MorphOS for now is too frustrating. Pressing five times F5 just get page viewed would take me to early grave sooner than later :)

hooligan,
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Uh? Never heard that before. I use OWB as my main browser for years without the need of anything else. In fact I don´t even have a system set up capable of useful surfing beside my ipad.

OWB is for sure the fastest browser around and thanks to the "URL-settings"-Feature I am able to speedup some pages even more.

There may be a few pages crashing OWB, but that happens on ipad in a reprodcable way, too.

Geit

EDIT: Wrong - The Wii-U has a browser, too, but who cares :D

[ Edited by geit 09.01.2013 - 11:51 ]

Nope, it does happen for me also. It appears to be just certain servers where page loading is very slow sometimes. There is good chance you never get it (all Amiga sites load just fine here) but sites like www.iltalehti.fi is loading slowly.

itix: I think Hooligan's issue is different. At least how we tried to debug it long time ago. There wasn't any visible issue causing the stalls on him IIRC. But the thing you're talking with Iltalehti is because some ad server doesn't respond or stalls for some other reason. You can see it on the Network Activity window that it's waiting for some url. You can get Iltalehti quick if you deny http://atemda.com/* in Content Blocking. On Hooligan's case there wasn't anything waiting in Network Activity window...

And that atemda.com for example could be an issue of some feature lacking in fragmented tcp packet handling in NetStack, I'd guess.

[ Edited by jPV 09.01.2013 - 13:31 ]

itix,
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Well, the page appears in around 6 seconds here and totally loads around 23 seconds. It seems it has been split into trillions of small files as there are 4 connection lamps blinking like mad during the last 15 seconds.

I don´t think this is the browsers fault. No clue why it limits the number of connections to just 4. The first few seconds it uses all 32 connections to get content.

Geit

In fact Itix gave a good example as that is a site I visit often.

Usually OWB loads pages x amount of percent and starts waiting, I press F5 to refresh and it *might* work to 100% or load x mount of percent (not even same amount of data as before) .. its usually faster to hit F5 a couple times than wait the page to load 100% which is not even guaranteed to happen.

And hey, I need my dosage of evening cow ( www.iltalehti.fi/iltatytto/ ) every morning, so this is a must site to work ;)


@Geit

I'm glad you don't have any problems. Unfortunately this is not the case for me. I will try the demoversion of Roadshow properly when I get home.

hooligan,
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Sorry, forgot to mention that little detail... after trying the installer many times I decided to install it manually.. which was to copy allo contents of C: to SYS:C, devs:internet to sys:devs/internet and devs:storage/netinterfaces to sys:devs/netinterfaces... you can also copy colntents of the startup scripts or edit your own...it doesn't need any assigns or anything... last step is to set the device name in the startup script located in sys:devs/netinterfaces...

Cheers,
Dragster

Works. Download speed is full what I can get from my adsl line and OWB no more stalls in loading pages. As Dr. Alban said it, "sing hallelujah"

(deleted incorrect advice)

[ Edited by Motosampy 09.01.2013 - 19:45 ]

hooligan,
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I experienced the same feeling when I tried it... the improvement over the MOS native tcp/ip stack is very, very noticeable... I'm definitely paying 25 eur to Olsen for this as soon as my next paycheck hits my pocket.

Cheers,

Dragster

hooligan,
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Yeah, did that here too.

That's nice, indeed.

It's no secret that Netstack performance has been lacking quite a lot. I guess Roadshow is a OK stop-gap measure until the new stack is released.

I installed samba server 2.2.5 68k on Roadshow 68k, powerbook running Morphos 3.1 and copied back and fourth a 400MB from Win7 pc to the ramdisk as a samba share, and transfer rates are pretty constant, 25-26MB/s from ram disk and 30-33MB/s to ramdisk....

When i copy a file from ramdisk to my Morphos partition(SSD hd) its actually slower around 20-22MB/s) than the network speed i'm getting with this stack :)

If the new Morphos netstack in Morphos 3.2 is as fast as Roadshow(and it should be since its not emulated 68k code) I'll be a happy camper

Just copied vncserver to wbstartup, its pretty responsive from around the lan


[ Edited by catohagen 09.01.2013 - 21:51 ]

EDIT: Never mind, didn't realise until now that the Powerbook has gigabit lan built-in!

[ Edited by boot_wb 09.01.2013 - 22:27 ]

@hooligan
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Can confirm that on my PEGII. Site loaded in less then 20s! Might be another problem in your case.......?

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Nope. As mentioned above it was the netstack/network driver combo which caused the problem. You are using VIA_Rhine (if I remember correctly from my Peggy days) and I am using Sungem on this Mac.

Oh -then I missunderstood. I thougt this is a general issue and occurs on both devices......

Roadshow MorphOS Update released today

yes, posted it here

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9002&forum=9

but the addnetinterface fix for bringing the device driver online still doesnt work

Ram Disk:> AddNetInterface DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.info)
Interface "SunGEM" added.
Interface "SunGEM" configured, address = 192.168.0.55, network mask = 255.255.255.0.
Ram Disk:> ping google.com
ping: unknown host google.com
Ram Disk:> online sungem_eth.device unit 0
Ram Disk:> ping google.com
PING google.com (173.194.32.37): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 173.194.32.37: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=17.487 ms
64 bytes from 173.194.32.37: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=17.047 ms
64 bytes from 173.194.32.37: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=17.291 ms
64 bytes from 173.194.32.37: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=17.105 ms
64 bytes from 173.194.32.37: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=17.078 ms
64 bytes from 173.194.32.37: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=16.872 ms
64 bytes from 173.194.32.37: icmp_seq=6 ttl=54 time=16.965 ms

--- google.com ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 16.872/17.120/17.487 ms
Ram Disk:> version c:AddNetInterface
AddNetInterface 4.52
Ram Disk:>

[ Edited by catohagen 16.01.2013 - 17:50 ]