Problem with clock time after osx used.
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    Hello, i noticed that when i have previously used osx, when i came back to morphos it is with the wrong time, so i have to change it manually. If i not boot into osx, it stays with the right time whenever i boot mos. Is there some way to fix it or some workaround?
    Has anyone experiencing it with dual boot systems?.
    Thanks in advance!!!
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  • »22.09.11 - 14:01
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 667 from 2004/11/3
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    A workaround is to get the time via SetClockNTP on MorphOS.
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    Korni
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    Code:

    Execute MOSSYS:S/network-startup
    Run >NIL: SetClockNTP SAVE


    Put it in S:network-startup
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
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    Ok thanks for the tip. When you refer to mossys is the real system directory, or the assigned one in the root of the disk?. For example i put any new lib in the libs folder on the root of the disk and not on the system/libs.
    Thanks in advance!!!
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > When you refer to mossys is the real system directory, or the assigned one
    > in the root of the disk?

    MOSSYS: is SYS:MorphOS. Just enter MOSSYS: in a shell and see for yourself.
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
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    Korni,
    Quote:

    Code:

    Execute MOSSYS:S/network-startup
    Run >NIL: SetClockNTP SAVE


    Put it in S:network-startup



    You probably wanted to say "Put it in S:user-startup" ??

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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > You probably wanted to say "Put it in S:user-startup" ??

    I don't think so.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6715&forum=9&start=8
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6800&forum=3&start=5
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7257&forum=3&start=11
  • »24.09.11 - 12:35
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Korni
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    Nope, S:network-startup is correct. This way, programs relying on a network don't need to wait for it, because network is already up. Putting SetClockNTP in S:user-startup might cause not syncing a clock at all etc.
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  • »24.09.11 - 12:47
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
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    Korni,
    Quote:

    Code:

    Execute MOSSYS:S/network-startup
    Run >NIL: SetClockNTP SAVE


    Put it in S:network-startup



    Ok, but inserting those 2 lines in network-startup as you say would not produce a LOOP!?



    Proably it's enough to just insert the line "Run >NIL: SetClockNTP SAVE" in network-startup and copy this to S: or call it with execute command inside user-startup?

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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > inserting those 2 lines in network-startup as you say would not produce a LOOP!?

    It wouldn't.
  • »24.09.11 - 15:34
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
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    Execute MOSSYS:S/network-startup
    Run >NIL: SetClockNTP SAVE

    This fix tends to lock up my OWB (Oasys Web Browser :-)) as it is loading tabs. Task manager complains about cli.....ect.....frozen
  • »24.09.11 - 23:41
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    amigadave
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    Okay, I am with Miky060, why is it not a loop if you put an execute file xyz line into file xyz?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 667 from 2004/11/3
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    Maybe because MOSSYS:s/network-startup isn't the same file as S:network-startup?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Korni
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    Well, something crashes for you. Never had any problems with it and i have Run >NIL: WaitX H=1 L=0 "SetClockNTP SAVE" there as well :).
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    analogkid,
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    Maybe because MOSSYS:s/network-startup isn't the same file as S:network-startup?


    Ok, I follow you better. But still trying to understand: what if I just add the line "Run >NIL: SetClockNTP SAVE" at the end of MOSSYS:s/network-startup? Would not be this enough/correct? Is not MOSSYS:s/network-startup executed automatically at every boot?

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  • »25.09.11 - 11:20
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    guruman
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    Miky, you should never ever modify anything in MOSSYS: (unless explicitly told so by the MorphOS team, which is the case only with rexxsyslib.library) because these files get overwritten at every OS update. So, if you want to preserve your configuration and settings, creating a new S:network-startup as indicated is the way to go.

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    Ok, I follow you better. But still trying to understand: what if I just add the line "Run >NIL: SetClockNTP SAVE" at the end of MOSSYS:s/network-startup? Would not be this enough/correct? Is not MOSSYS:s/network-startup executed automatically at every boot?


    Files in MOSSYS: are replaced in every OS update and if you have modified them, modifications are gone too. That's why you have to do all your own settings in SYS:

    And when you have something in SYS:, it is used instead of equivalent file in MOSSYS: (EDIT: at least for script files, libs and commands are looked from MOSSYS: first), that's why you have to add line to execute network-startup file in the MOSSYS: too, because it contains NetStack startup lines. Other option would be to copy whole file from MOSSYS: to SYS: and add own lines there, but it's not good solution if original network-startup file is changed in some update later.

    So, just do like it's been adviced, it's sophisticated and safe :)

    [ Edited by jPV 25.09.2011 - 20:36 ]
  • »25.09.11 - 16:29
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    jPV,
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    And when you have something in SYS:, it is used instead of equivalent file in MOSSYS: (EDIT: at least for script files, libs and commands are looked from MOSSYS: first), that's why you have to add line to execute network-startup file in the MOSSYS: too


    Ooooh God! Now it's everything clear! I had totally missed the point!!

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  • »25.09.11 - 22:38
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
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    Hello, sorry for resurfacing an old thread, but recently i have reinstalled morphos and i'm having problems setting date time correctly. If i leave the two lines in mossys:network-startup, i get trouble with internet connection and owb freezes. Also i read the thread again and i'm confused about where to put the lines. Are the lines needed to add on the root directory /S, or on the MorphOS/S directory. Also noticed the first lacks this file.
    I had that working on my previous install, so don't know why i'm facing this crashes now.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    P.D: I forgot to say, that when adding these two lines to the network-startup file and i reboot the system, there is a process running that gets 87%+- of cpu and makes owb unusable and then the system in overall.
    Is the exec line really needed as it is already included in network-startup?

    [ Edited by _ThEcRoW 25.03.2012 - 11:11 ]
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  • »25.03.12 - 13:02
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    Megander
    Posts: 85 from 2011/11/28
    I defined an alias called "timesync" in the shell-startup using the 68k ntpsync command from the Aminet. OK, I still have to type it in a shell window which I have to start seperately but thus I make sure I only execute the synchronization when the machine is done booting and the network is available (caesium clock of the Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt Braunschweig ftw).

    After Sunday's time change from CET to CEST however, my clock was 18 years and a bit off! :-o

    [ Edited by Megander 27.03.2012 - 18:56 ]
  • »27.03.12 - 19:54
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    geit
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    Well, why you use some 68k tool, when there is a tool (SetClockNTP) delivered with MorphOS, which even handled the DST switch last weekend for many countries.
  • »27.03.12 - 21:40
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    Megander
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    Because I have been unaware of its existence until now. See, that's the problem with noobs. Thanks for pointing me at it anyway!
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I have been unaware of its existence until now.

    It's not like geit was the first one to mention SetClockNTP in this thread ;-)
  • »28.03.12 - 06:57
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    Megander
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    A whole thread?

    tl;dr

    ;-)

    [ Edited by Megander 28.03.2012 - 09:59 ]
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