Hi all!
Can someone help me? I have a strange error when I try to open MUI settings (Ambient or Global).
It seems that there is a strange calling to a LIBS:mui/Settings.mui, plus errors in MUILayoutObject.
This is the debug log after the Global MUI Settings selection:

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Quark Thread:
TID 0000000010020010
Name ABox
Exception 3 <Illegal Data Access at fffffffe DSISR 40000000, Load from a not existing Page>
SRR0 0x11023430 SRR1 0x0200f030
LR 0x1100738c CTR 0x11023428
CR 0x28002285 XER 0x00000000
GPR[00] 11023428 290c77b0 290c7830 0000d190 00000000 00000004 11008a3c 11008a48
GPR[08] 110087c0 1100738c 11007300 11008648 48002285 4b0bd936 00000008 1132b824
GPR[16] 00000100 0a8eed7e 290f68fc 00000100 0a43da3d fffffffe 00000000 00000000
GPR[24] 29eef1e4 00000000 290c7600 2911ba48 fffffffe 00000000 696e732f 29ef3264
FPSCR 43efff0000104050
FPR[00] fff800000001d8fc 290fab6400000000 0000000000000004 290fab6400000000
FPR[04] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[08] 3fd999999999999a 3fe4000000000000 41e0000000000000 4330000000000000
FPR[12] 40fd8fcc56e12f95 40115629d1df6805 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[16] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[20] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[24] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[28] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
VSAVE 00000000
VSCR 00010000
VPR[00] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[02] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[04] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[06] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[08] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[10] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[12] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[14] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[16] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[18] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[20] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[22] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[24] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[26] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[28] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[30] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
IABR 00000000
DABR 00000000
MMCR0 00000000
MMCR1 00000000
MMCR2 00000000
PMC1 00000000 PMC2 00000000 PMC3 00000000 PMC4 00000000
SIA 00000000
SDA 00000000

PPCStackFrame History:
StackFrame[ 0].LR-> Address 0x11008aec -> Emulation Hunk 0 Offset 0x00008aec
StackFrame[ 1].LR-> Address 0x290d02c0 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 1 Offset 0x000033d8
StackFrame[ 2].LR-> Address 0x290d01f8 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 1 Offset 0x00003310
StackFrame[ 3].LR-> Address 0x290d0630 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 1 Offset 0x00003748
**************************************************************
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ABox State
Hardware:
Openfirmware..skip for now
ExecBase: SysBase 0x20001948
SysFlags 0x0000 AttnResched 0x0000 IDNestCnt -1 TDNestCnt 0
ThisTask 0x29eef188 TaskReady 0x20001ae2 TaskWait 0x2000f330
ResModules 0x20003e88
TaskTrapCode 0x10100128 TaskExceptCode 0x10100130 TaskExitCode 0x1010018c
TaskSigAlloc 0xffff TaskTrapAlloc 0x8000
IdleCount 15802
DispCount 131254
Quantum 4
Elapsed 2
VBlankFrequency 50 PowerSupplyFrequency 50 EClockFrequency 709379
MainTID 0x10020010
SchedulerTID 0x10020012
SchedulerSig 0x80000000
OldSRR0 0x0
ConfigServerTID 0x10000013
LastIntObject 0x203d8b14
LastIntObject 0x203d8b14 <Not Valid ptr>
Code 0x202b2d38 Data 0x2029122c
Int0: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int1: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int2: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int3: iv_Code 0x101055cc iv_Data 0x20003b20 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int4: iv_Code 0x101055cc iv_Data 0x20003b40 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int5: iv_Code 0x101055cc iv_Data 0x20003b30 iv_Node 0x00000000
Interrupt 0x2002a62e <graphics.library>
Code 0x101700cc Data 0x2002a5e4
Interrupt 0x26b96288 <ixemul timer interrupt>
Code 0x26adbbd0 Data 0x00000000
Int6: iv_Code 0x101700d4 iv_Data 0x2002a5e4 iv_Node 0x2002a65a
Int7: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int8: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int9: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int10: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int11: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int12: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int13: iv_Code 0x101055cc iv_Data 0x20003b50 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int14: iv_Code 0x00000000 iv_Data 0x00000000 iv_Node 0x00000000
Int15: iv_Code 0x101055cc iv_Data 0x20003b60 iv_Node 0x00000000
**************************************************************
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Running Task


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Task 0x29eef188 Name 0x29ef326c <MUI> Type 13 Pri 0
Flags 0x8 State 2 IDNestCnt -1 TDNestCnt -1
SigAlloc 0xf800ffff SigWait 0x00000100 SigRecvd 0x00000000 SigExcept 0x00000000
ExceptCode 0x10100130 ExceptData 0x00000000 TrapCode 0x10100128 TrapData 0x00000000
Switch 0x00000000 Launch 0x00000000 UserData 0x00000000
SPLower 0x29eef26c SPUpper 0x29ef326c SPReg 0x29ef3208
MemList 0x2a2d8f30 Entries 0x1
Address 0x290fa148 Size 0x14
MemList 0x2a2d8850 Entries 0x1
Address 0x29eef188 Size 0x40e8
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ETask 0x2a2d889c
MemPool 0x290fa1e0 PPCLibData 0x00000000
PPCSPLower 0x290c3ccc PPCSPUpper 0x290cbcc0
PPCTrapMsgPort 0x00000000 PPCTrapMessage 0x2a1de53c
PPCRegFrame 0x290cb7e0
Private[] 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
EmulHandle 0x00000000
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EmulHandle 0x290c7830 Type 0x00000004 Flags 0x00000000
SuperHandle 0x10001000 Type 0x00000000 WaitMask 0x00000000 SyncMask 0x00000000
USP 0x00000000 SSP 0x20003780 VBR 0x2000df90
SFC 0x00000000 DFC 0x00000000 CACR 0xa0808000 TC 0x00000000
ITT0 0x00000000 ITT1 0x00000000 DTT0 0x00000000 DTT1 0x00000000
URP 0x00000000 SRP 0x00000000 BUSCR 0x00000000 PCR 0x04310501
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SRR0 0x11023430 SRR1 0x0200f030
LR 0x1100738c CTR 0x11023428
CR 0x28002285 XER 0x00000000
GPR[00] 11023428 290c77b0 290c7830 0000d190 00000000 00000004 11008a3c 11008a48
GPR[08] 110087c0 1100738c 11007300 11008648 48002285 4b0bd936 00000008 1132b824
GPR[16] 00000100 0a8eed7e 290f68fc 00000100 0a43da3d fffffffe 00000000 00000000
GPR[24] 29eef1e4 00000000 290c7600 2911ba48 fffffffe 00000000 696e732f 29ef3264
FPSCR 43efff0000104050
FPR[00] fff800000001d8fc 290fab6400000000 0000000000000004 290fab6400000000
FPR[04] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[08] 3fd999999999999a 3fe4000000000000 41e0000000000000 4330000000000000
FPR[12] 40fd8fcc56e12f95 40115629d1df6805 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[16] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[20] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[24] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[28] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
VSAVE 00000000
VSCR 00010000
VPR[00] 33373438003633300000d8c01000d990 1000d91000426ba4000000000000156c
VPR[02] 113285c9000000080000000178300010 100000000040a0001a1a1a1a1b1b1b1b
VPR[04] 1c1c1c1c1d1d1d1d1e1e1e1e1f1f1f1f 1000d97000425be41e1e1e1e00000003
VPR[06] 290d06302911b9b8113285d0113285d0 00000001000037481a1a1a1a1b1b1b1b
VPR[08] 1000d9301d1d1d1d20001b5c113284a8 2000e45800425be40000000000000000
VPR[10] 10124af4000000000000000000000000 1000d97011006a1800000000290d0630
VPR[12] 1000d9781000d97c2911b9b820001948 1000d9601000d9781000d8d800000000
VPR[14] 1000d97000400cd81000d8d800000000 1000d98000425c680000000100000000
VPR[16] 1000d9c0004263042002200413131313 1000d9a0151515151616161617171717
VPR[18] 1000d9b000400cd80000000100000000 1000d9c000400cd81000d9f000000000
VPR[20] 1000d9d000425c686d2061201000dad0 1000da5000426ba40000000178300000
VPR[22] 00000000000000000000000000000000 30003000336236300000000000000000
VPR[24] 00000000000000000000000000000000 113280d4000000000000000000000000
VPR[26] 11326ed4000000001a1a1a1a1b1b1b1b 1c1c1c1c1d1d1d1d1a1a1a1a1b1b1b1b
VPR[28] 1c1c1c1c1d1d1d1d1e1e1e1e1f1f1f1f 1000daf000425be40000000a00000001
VPR[30] 004497d8008000080200303000001dbb 0200f030020070300000000000000000
SRR0 -> Emulation Hunk 0 Offset 0x00023430
LR -> Emulation Hunk 0 Offset 0x0000738c
CTR -> Emulation Hunk 0 Offset 0x00023428

PPCStackFrame History:
StackFrame[ 0].LR-> Address 0x11008aec -> Emulation Hunk 0 Offset 0x00008aec
StackFrame[ 1].LR-> Address 0x290d02c0 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 1 Offset 0x000033d8
StackFrame[ 2].LR-> Address 0x290d01f8 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 1 Offset 0x00003310
StackFrame[ 3].LR-> Address 0x290d0630 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 1 Offset 0x00003748
Stack: 0x290c77b0
0x290c7790[-0x20] 290c77b0 1011a85c 00000000 29eef188
0x290c77a0[-0x10] 290c77b0 20023924 00000000 00000000
0x290c77b0[0x000] 290c77d0 290d7580 48002285 ffffffff
0x290c77c0[0x010] 2a3c0000 290f0000 290f0000 290f0000
0x290d7580 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 1 Offset 0x0000a698
0x2a3c0000 -> SnoopDOS Hunk 1 Offset 0x00002910
0x290f0000 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 2 Offset 0x000094a8
0x290f0000 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 2 Offset 0x000094a8
0x290f0000 -> LIBS:mui/Settings.mui Hunk 2 Offset 0x000094a8
Emul PPC mode: Current 68k context
PC 4b0bd936 SR 0008
Dn[0] 00000100 0a8eed7e 290f68fc 00000100 0a43da3d fffffffe 00000000 00000000
An[0] 29eef1e4 00000000 290c7600 2911ba48 fffffffe 00000000 696e732f 29ef3264
Stack: 0x29ef3264
0x29ef3244[-0x20] 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef3254[-0x10] 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef3264[0x000] 1132b820 00004000 4d554900 29eef180
0x29ef3274[0x010] 00000100 4d6f7270 684f533a 4d6f7270
0x29ef3284[0x020] 684f532f 50726566 732f4d55 492e696e
0x29ef3294[0x030] 666f0000 0001ffff 021f000f ca0a0aca
0x29ef32a4[0x040] 0a0a0a0a 00000000 26ca2b76 00000010
0x29ef32b4[0x050] 0008000b 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef32c4[0x060] 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef32d4[0x070] 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef32e4[0x080] 0000003b 29ef3270 000000ab 20000034
0x29ef32f4[0x090] 20000034 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef3304[0x0a0] 00000000 ffff00ff 01000f00 0001ffff
0x29ef3314[0x0b0] 00000000 cacacaca cacacaca 00000000
0x29ef3324[0x0c0] 26c98546 0000000d 00070009 00000000
0x29ef3334[0x0d0] 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef3344[0x0e0] 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x29ef3354[0x0f0] 20000034 294d6f72 70684f53 3a4d6f72
0x1132b820 -> Emulation Hunk 0 Offset 0x0032b820
Last saved PPCThread State:
SRR0 0x10123e60 SRR1 0x0200f030
LR 0x101148c4 CTR 0x20282178
CR 0x28002285 XER 0x20000000
GPR[00] 00000005 290c77e0 290cbbd0 2026cb90 00000000 2029cda8 290c7600 00000004
GPR[08] 26ac25ed 202a0000 00000001 00000000 28002285 00000000 00000000 2a3c0000
GPR[16] 2a3bb810 00000100 290f0000 00000000 00000018 00000002 29eef188 00000004
GPR[24] ffffffff 20001af0 20001aec 00000001 ffffffff 88002285 290c77e8 20001948
FPSCR 43efff0000104050
FPR[00] fff800000001d8fc 290fab6400000000 0000000000000004 290fab6400000000
FPR[04] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[08] 3fd999999999999a 3fe4000000000000 41e0000000000000 4330000000000000
FPR[12] 40fd8fcc56e12f95 40115629d1df6805 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[16] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[20] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[24] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FPR[28] 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
VSAVE 00000000
VSCR 00010000
VPR[00] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[02] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[04] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[06] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[08] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[10] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[12] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[14] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[16] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[18] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[20] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[22] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[24] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[26] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[28] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VPR[30] 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
SRR0 -> Module Hunk 0 Offset 0x00023e60
LR -> Module Hunk 0 Offset 0x000148c4
CTR -> MOSSYS:LIBS/locale.library Hunk 1 Offset 0x00006178

PPCStackFrame History:

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SegList 0x0a43e852 GlobVec 0x20028fec
StackBase 0x0a7bbc9b StackSize 0x00004000
TaskNum 0x00000000 Result2 0x00000000
CurrentDir 0x0a8a03c0 CIS 0x00000000
COS 0x00000000 CES 0x00000000
ConsoleTask 0x00000000 FileSystemTask 0x2004d7d4
CLI 0x00000000 ReturnAddr 0x29ef3268
PktWait 0x00000000 WindowPtr 0xffffffff
HomeDir 0x0a8b61c8 Flags 0x00000000
ExitCode 0x00000000 ExitData 0x00000000
Arguments 0x00000000 ShellPrivate 0x00000000
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TaskTrapHandler: MsgPort 0x290c7730
TaskTrapHandler: Task 0x29eef188 <MUI>
TaskTrapHandler: Msg 0x290c7700
TaskTrapHandler: TrapMsgPort_68k 0x200c53f8
TaskTrapHandler: Send Msg

And those are the errors displayed when the window error appear:

MUIFail01
MUIFail02
MUIFail03

Any idea?!?
Thanks!

[ Edited by Jambalah on 2009/12/3 12:29 ]

Typical reason for such problem is installing some broken MUI custom class. Move away all classes from SYS:Classes/MUI and make sure that MOSSYS:Classes/MUI contains only classes delivered with the system.

I have MOSSYS:Classes/MUI with classes I found and I added thirdy parts only in SYS:Classes/MUI. I tried to erase all mui classes there but the result is the same. Everything but "About MUI..." freezes. The sbar gadgets too...

It could be a corrupt mui prefs

Try this:

backup and remove everything from sys:prefs/env-archive/mui/

copy Global.prefs from the same path in your MorphOS install-cd to your hd, reboot and test

[ Edited by deb on 2009/12/3 17:40 ]

Thanks Deb! I tried what you suggested but I obtain the same error.... =(

@ Jambalah

ok, I seemed to have the same problem as you, after having copied the skins from the ThreeSkins.lha archive to MOS:Prefs/Skins...

Everything seems to work fine BUT it's just not possible to open the MUI prefs, the system crashes...
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6661&forum=9

I think I tried everything, copied the orig. Global.prefs from MorphOS 2.4, copied the Global.prefs from another Pegasos where everything works fine, etc. just nothing worked. Then I ereased the 3 skin drawers which are: MossieSkinBlack and ...Blue and ...Grey and after a reset everything worked again for me. Hmmm... strange, I didn't have yet time enough to check why... that's why I didn't answer to the above thread...

Please try the same as me and give us some feed-back because if this happens to you also, then something gets worng somewhere....

Regards

Christoph

Thanks Christoph! And excuse me... It seems I'm the cause of this problem... My skins, I mean.. or the MUI prefs for those.
I tried and this happens even to me. So there's something wrong. I'm checking and I'll let you know soon.

Tested "MossieGraySkin" with related MUI.prefs: all is ok with this skin.
Going on with checking...

Guys, could you please send me / attach to this thread the skins / mui prefs files causing the problem ? Thanks.

Well, I noticed that a long log error happens when I use the blue version of "MossieSkin", starting with a "exception 3 <Illegal data Acces at 0ffc0cc6 DSISR 42000000, Store to a not existing Page>".
Maybe I missed something..
I'm going to send that skin to Jacadcaps and searching for something I forgot.
By the way, I reinstalled the skins and everything work now.

Got the file, will try to have a look soon.

Using the skin I don't really get any hits with the standard MUI prefs items (Info->Keyboard). However when testing I found some old mccs that hit when their objects are being created, these are:

TransferAnim.mcc 1.0,
TWFMultiLed 12.4
Filelist.mcc 19.1

Removing these removed any hits I got in MUI Preferences.

I did however get a failed layout error and already investigated the spot where it happens. We will fix this for 2.5.

Thanks Jacadcaps for your testing!
Where I took those old mccs...?!?

@Jambalah

So, I'm not 100% sure what you meant here. Did you find the above classes and removed them ?

@Jacadcaps

Sorry... I mean: where I took those classes, since I have searched for them, in order to remove... But I didn't find anywhere!!!

Well... it might still be something else. Are you sure you even have these? Try to 'version twfmultiled.mcc' in shell to see if you have any of the said classes.

Tried, with all the three classes and everytime I obtained an "object not found" response.

@ Jambalah

I downloaded your superbe new skin: Simplyblack Very nice!

Now again, when I copy the TheBlueTech.prefs to System:Prefs/Presets/MUI/ I'm again not able to open the MUI settings! I d'ont understand, strange... Any idea?

Hi rms! And thanks!! I'm glad you like =)
The strange thing is that after I adjusted MUI settings I tried to save it with another name (I wanted to use "simplyblacky.prefs"...) and the window error appeared. After that I wasn't able to open MUI settings anymore.
Then I erased it (MUI saved my new prefs) and all went ok again... Maybe there's something in my MUI prefs. I mean: MUI probabily calls some graphic part of that setting moved or erased (I'll check for that), don't think some strange class (I checked when jacadcaps suggested and I found nothing), since I use to put thirdy parts classes in SYS:Classes/MUI avoiding to touch the MOSSYS:Classes/MUI.
I'll investigate...

Thanks to Yomgui, I understood the problem:
the path of window and requester backgrounds is "MorphOS:". But this is the name of my hd and should be different
for other people. So you have to chenge that name with "SYS:" and all should become normal.
Sorry.. I made a big mistake....
Download here the right .prefs file (right mouse button & download file)
http://jambalah.altervista.org/SimplyBlacky.prefs

@ Jambalah

Thanks for feed-back, though here it still doesn't work! Whatever prefs file I have in System:Prefs/Presets/MUI yours or the modified one from Papiosaur, neither one lets me open MUI settings if they are present. I delete the file, make a reset and everything works fine again. Stange, isn't it?

BTW, yes it would be great to have a skin like that for 13 points typeface so that the allover window's sizes stay as small as possible

@ RMS:
I just realized a 15 points skin. If you tell me how to do I can send you to test it (I hope buttons don't look ugly..)
For the prefs: I can't understand how this could happen.... Yes, really strange....

@ Jambalah

Great Please send it to christoph.poelzl@rmsvideo.ch I'll test it and give you some feed-back.

About the prefs file I neither don't understand what happens... well