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Not quite, and that's assuming the bus on this hardware is as crippled as on the pegasos (which is not very likely as this is a dedicated onboard GPU).

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Well, since this CPU has AltiVec that conversion should not take too much effort.

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Damn, I suppose that means I'll have to start coming up with new ones... :P


- CISC

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AFAIR, bigfoot mentioned on IRC something about him getting more than
2x the framerate with his Quake versions on the MacMini compared to
the Pegasos. And the fact that it was twice as fast in general.
I have some doubts he is going to write anything personally here, but
again, if I'm wrong on some accounts, I'll hopefully get corrected.

Kind regards,
Andrea

Hmm.. speaking of graphics cards, can we get an official statement on the status of R300 Radeon drivers for MOS? Instead of us having to spend 3 hrs on google trying to piecemeal together random form posts (some in other strange languages lol) ? Please?


How about we get back on topic please and acknowledge that we are indeed nearing the so-called "Q2" so how is a feature set coming? If I remember correctly both MOS and OS4 used to have history of releasing feature set press releases prior to release. Or is it all just a big Secret? (No no THE Secret) I mean do we have to wear a black robe and mask, fly to Denmark, Germany or whatever #*@)( 'd European country and whisper "FIdelio"?

tia

magnetic

@magnetic:

1. MorphOS not MOS ('MOS' is anything like 'Microsoft Office Specialist' but not MorphOS)

2. The MorphOS-Team does not care what Hyperion does to promote their releases.

3. I guess, there will be no feature list prior the release (unless someone of the team is really bored for no reason). We rather spend our time to fix remaining issues or add the one or other extra feature than wasting our time on repeating what will be in the release for the 20th time. Please check just one of (your) other random threads here on mz.org were we replied/ confirmed lots of things. If someone is too lazy to do this then he only can wait for the release and let himself surprise.


regards,
tokai,

who wasted another 5 min of his life he could have spend on improving MisterBanana. ;)

tokai

You know its really interesting before you joined "MOS team" you were a lot nicer and didnt have that elitist sense of humour....

I guess the community asking for a feature list is too much to ask. I mean we wouldnt want anyone to take 1hr to do this big task or anything. That might delay 2.0 release until Q2(MORE WEEKS)

magnetic: are you really trying to piss the mos team off??
with the weekly opened "mos2.0" threads by you and comments like this...

please, i beg you to stop! there will be no "feature list" as it's been told by a hundred times. there will be mos2.0 with a new feature set instead:)

i really dont know what the point asking the same q's again and again and again. quite boring to read.....

sorry if i "sounded" to harsh... im fully understand your frustration, but still, this attitude is not helping the situation of morphos i guess. sorry if im wrong:)


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I don't get it to whats the problem to wait max 2 month and get 2.0 and find all the new featuers by yourself? Thats more fun like to know everything befor. Most of the things are well known thanks to jcmarcos and there will be a list in the docks i guess.

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saddam

What you fail to realize its not about me. Its about whats left of this community. Because there has been no PR for MOS for 3+ years now only losers like us know whats going on with it. SO thats like 200 ppl - all the other fringe Amiga ppl really don tknow about MOS... now do you understand the need for info?

As far as "pissing of the mos team" they are used to my antics and believe me I and these threads obviously dont alter of effect them much.

its ok then:) but...

"obviously dont alter of effect them much." - then why you do it?:)
anyway, you're right. mz is quite dead, our local pegasos portal is also as well as some other peg/mos related site. only a few ppl write here and there.
the irc channel is almost the same - with lot of core developers there but almost no users....
its sad. its painful - you cant have a real conversation about mos, couldnt ask for help - coz theres almost noone to talk with...
but what the heck we (mere users) can do about it?

@magnetic

I wasn't joking at all. Maybe you don't see it, but in my suggestions (if they sounded funny to you) I saw a bigger picture. I'm not joking when telling people to use 'MorphOS' rather than 'MOS' in public places. I happen to experienced more than one situation where MorphOS user used MOS outside the MorphOS world and caused serious confusion. Because MOS is just a random 3 letter combination which can stand for anything, but MorphOS. Just check google. So the usage of MorphOS should always be used over the usage of MOS (this especially goes for archive filenames too f.ex.).

I also remember you were a lot more productive in the past, e.g. you made presentation videos about MorphOS and released them to the internet etc. I appreciate that kind of motivating people.

Where is all of this productiviy of yours gone? If you want to help MorphOS that's the way. If you need a feature list, why don't you take 2 - 3 days of your time and write it together. Make a nice PDF out of it, f.ex. Just by reading all your threads alone you should cover 60%-80% of the MorphOS features. See jcmarcos, he started this job already, but it can be *much* more complete if someone invests the time if he has. Yes, *just* by collecting all public infos from morph.zone and the linked sites/ reports you'll get a feature list which covers 96% of MorphOS 2.0. This is something which will probably be more appreciated by everyone (including me) than the 20th thread asking the MorphOS team to do it (they surely have more important/ pressing issues to solve in the remaining short time).

Dropping by on #morphos and lurk around there quietly for just long enough will usually help to collect bits and facts about the upcoming release too.



What you fail to realize is that I'm as a MorphOS developer *and* user really be ashamed when I have to point external peaople who want to know a bit more about MorphOS to a forum like morphzone and there are tons of magnetic threads on the frontpage where people have nothing left to do than to whine about the not yet released MorphOS 2.0. Or they complain about missing feature lists or screenshots as if no information like that existed. Thats a really great way to promote MorphOS! If you don't see why I (in my job as MorphZone moderator not as developer/ user) try to reduce that as much as possible then I don't know. Maybe your intentions are right (I'm not really sure about this anymore atm.) but what you do has zero to do with promotion. It's rather the opposite.

And I tried to get that into your head a few times already, that you still didn't got it is something which makes me 'pissed off' about all the time i wasted into this (don't you think writing such long posts here on mz.org takes its time too I could spend much better into something more useful?). Sure that makes one sound harsh after some time, but that has nothing to do with elitist humour.


Anyway... if you really want to help MorphOS, then you could complete the pity MorphOS wikipedia entry and fix all its missinformation. etc. There is so much to do even for non-programmers that I always wonder why so many people (mostly you atm.) just whine for happenings of the MorphOS Team as if they were the only one who could save the MorphOS world.


Now I hope I could express myself in an understandable way and you'll bend back for a while and think about what's the right way to help. I'll look forward to your helpful contributions.

regards,
tokai

@sadddam: never be afaraid to ask. and the core ratio is rather small compared to the users in the channel. Unless you talk about a different channel than #morphos ;)

Tokai

Though I appreciate your long post. I find it quite laughable that you are "embarassed" when you point ppl to MZ to find out info about MorphOS and see my threads. Maybe if Mos team and mngmnt had a good website with real information or some press releases here and there and/or news posts on OS news, Amiga org, etc etc then you wouldnt be so "embarassed" at my posts.

What i'm embarassed about is I actually spent 3 years of my life trying to sell/promote this platform and now its almost dead. As far as my sitting around fixing the wiki that is not something I want to do. Trust me Tokai back in the Genesi days I sacrificed blood sweat and tears just like mos team for this platform.. i wont go into more details but some ppl know why I say this.

magnetic

Hi Magnetic

I think I can understand why you say this. I too, spent a lot of time promoting MorphOS and the Pegasos. everyone I showed it to was totally blown away by its speed and responsiveness, and just on a 600MHz G3 Peg I at that.

Then the momentum kind of died, and like you, I feel that not much was done publicly to change that. Of course, much work went/goes on behind the scenes and I'm grateful for it, but I soon got disillusioned by the lack of communication and apparent elitism from the 'Core Gods'.

However, now, it seems like things finally look up-there is honest talk about what features to expect-and what not to expect-and a legitimate timeframe of when we can expect it. And, with this positivity from the developers, I notice that, as a whole, morale seems to be improving in general. There's actual communication and I think that's all people really wanted. The timeframe of release is a really big deal. 'When it's done' was kind of past its prime, if you know what I mean

There are lots of BIG software places around here. I can't wait to walk in with my Efika/MorphOS 2 platform and show them what an efficient OS really is!