No, I said that the *existing* and *disclosed* PowerEN chips, which are compound of AltiVec-less A2 cores and are what minator explicitly referred to and what I replied to, do not have AltiVec. We were *not* talking about hypothetical future PowerEN chips, which may or may not be compound of AltiVec-enabled cores. The very reason that minator was suggesting the non-AltiVec PowerEN chip is that it already exists. It's just not possible to add AltiVec to already shipped devkits afterwards. Apart from that, I wouldn't know why IBM should call a chip based on hypothetical AltiVec-enabled A2 cores and specially developed for Microsoft for use in a games console (and its devkit) "PowerEN" of all things, given that this name is already in use for a networking/server hybrid chip. It's not like any chip based on A2 cores is automatically a PowerEN chip (see the already mentioned Power BQC chip for instance).
