Update:

> those "Accelerators" are listed for the POWER7+ as well.

First public glimpse on the POWER7+:

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/03/21/ibm-power-7-spotted-and-it-is-a-monster/

...but still no info on the "Accelerators" unfortunately.

Addendum:

>> Just remember that Trevor stated that he is making zero money from
>> selling the X1000 and that he is not even getting any of his investment
>> back from the sales of X1000 systems. [...] Trevor made it very clear that
>> he is not making any money on them during the AmiWest 2011 Show.

> He also said before that he was trying to break even with the X1000
> and would only continue with further products if he manages to do so.
> So I think what he really meant to say with his statement you're
> referring to is that he's not going to make any profit on top of just
> trying to recoup the expenses the board development, purchase of the
> parts and board production have caused. But you're right that it can
> also be interpreted in a different way which would be contradictory
> to other statements he made on the matter.

X1000 betatester claims that A-Eon has broken even with the sale of the previous First Contact batch and will start making actual profit with the next batch ("which will be made available for sale in late Q2 2012", btw):

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=507827

Andreas_Wolf
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=507827,

Man! Goggle translates German really poorly.
I would not be surprised if Trevor managed to turn a profit.
I mean they are charging about $3200 for a system.

Someone could just ask him.
He's pretty accessible.

I don't know where TommySammy is getting his information from, but unless he is an employee of A-Eon, which I doubt very much, I am not going to believe his statements about the profits of Trevor Dickinson, or the A-Eon company.

I guess it might be possible that Trevor has made enough to break even on his investment with just the sales of the beta tester boards and the first production run from the First Contact systems, but if his investment so far has been $100,000 to $200,000 US dollars, I doubt he is charging enough to recoup all of that investment already, but only Trevor Dickinson really knows if/when he has recouped his investment and will start making a profit.

If he has recouped his investment already, then I hope he can lower the price for the next production run of X1000 systems, and sell more of them than was initially predicted.

@Jim,

Your estimate is about two to three hundred US dollars high, unless you live in a country that must pay VAT.

Without any extras, or VAT, I am pretty sure that the price was under $3,000.

I don't care how much Trevor has charged above the cost of the X1000 to recoup some or all of his investment. He was not doing it as a charity, it is a business and that business must make a profit to stay in business and produce new products in the future. If I was not happy with the price, I would not have bought my X1000 that I am typing this message on.

[ Edited by amigadave 03.04.2012 - 11:14 ]

> Man! Goggle translates German really poorly.

Manual translation of the relevant claim:

"AEon has already achieved a black zero, now they're going to reap profits."

> Someone could just ask him. He's pretty accessible.

I'm sure he's reading along this thread. So he will surely chime in this thread if he feels like commenting on the matter, like he did 3 weeks ago.

Update:

>> Page 12 of FTF11_NET_F1176 document mentions "Improved load /store
>> to ease bit alignment" and "New instructions for video analytics".

> Found another interesting comment on the new AltiVec in the QorIQ AMP:
> "An important note regarding AltiVec is that some users have previously found
> the ISA difficult to use. AMP marks its relaunch in a form that allows a far easier
> definition of parameters."
> http://www.techdesignforums.com/embedded/embedded-topics/freescale%E2%80%99s-qoriq-amp-series-illustrates-growing-demand-on-the-control-and-data-plane/

Description of the relevant FTF 2012 session (FTF-IND-F0016) now online:

"This session describes new instructions for extended support for misaligned vectors, support for handling head and tail vectors, and the long-awaited capability to move from general purpose to vector registers. Learn about the performance improvements resulting from enhancement to both AltiVec and the e6500 core."
http://www.getregisterednow.com/FSL/CEX/Session.aspx?li=1

Andreas_Wolf,
Quote:
I doubt Trevor has time to follow all the silly X1000 threads. More likely someone pointed-out a post/thread to him, so he took a look & decided to response.

So if you want a response, I suggest posing the question in an email, along with a pointer to this thread. If he wants to respond, then he can either send an email reply (if he doesn't have the time to do more) or else take the time to log-in here & make a post.

[ Edited by ChrisH 06.04.2012 - 14:42 ]

> I doubt Trevor has time to follow all the silly X1000 threads.

How many recent "silly X1000 threads" are there besides this one on the relevant English-speaking Amiga(-ish) portals where he has an account?

> More likely someone pointed-out a post/thread to him, so he took a look & decided
> to response.

Quite possible. So maybe this someone will point him here once more (or has already done so but Trevor decided not to respond) :-)

> if you want a response

Not so much. I just found it interesting that a betatester publicly claims to know about the essentials of the A-Eon company's monetary internals.

> I suggest posing the question in an email

I didn't ask any question here and I do not feel like conceiving one.

Andreas_Wolf,
Quote:

Andreas,

May I suggest that you start a new thread with a relevant topic title for your future updates, such as the information provided above? It would help this X1000 thread become more relevant to the title, if future posts were "on topic", even though I am sure your comments above were in response to a fork in this thread and therefore somehow distantly related to the X1000, a reader of this thread would probably have to search back several pages to find the connection of the above information to anything related to the X1000.

Just a suggestion that you are free to ignore if you wish.

Good point since I'm getting flack over an unrelated comment posted in another thread.

> I am sure your comments above were in response to a fork in this thread and
> therefore somehow distantly related to the X1000

True. The discussion on a potential successor to the X1000, including specs of the processor(s) it might use, has started in this very thread more than one year ago (i.e. on one of the very first pages), and it was not initiated by me. There's even a sub-discussion about MorphOS going x86 you took part in very early in this very thread, and not to forget the discussion about MorphOS on G5 Macs, and many more. Makes one wonder.

> I'm getting flack over an unrelated comment posted in another thread.

There's a difference between a long thread diverging from the original thread subject and putting a reply to a posting that isn't contentually related to that posting.

Your splitting hairs in a self justifying argument that is below your normal standards.

> Your splitting hairs in a self justifying argument

No, I'm just explaining the difference between what happened here to what happened in that other thread.

I believe that is the first time I have ever seen you rely solely on your opinion.

> I believe that is the first time I have ever seen you rely solely on your opinion.

From this very thread:
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7183&start=468

Besides, what opinion of mine are you referring to? That I regard what has happened here* as different from what happened there?

* with strong assistance from yourself btw

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 06.04.2012 - 23:39 ]

>Besides, what opinion of mine are you referring to? That I regard what has happened here as different from what happened there?

Exactly!
That's an opinion based on a rather fine dividing line Andreas.

> Exactly! That's an opinion based on a rather fine dividing line Andreas.

I don't think so, and I'll try to explain it in a more symbolic notation:

A) What happened here basically:
thread subject (1) with initial posting (2)
-> reply (3) to (2), contentually related to (2) and (1)
-> reply (4) to (3), contentually related to (3) and (1)
-> ...
-> reply (n+1) to (n), contentually still related to (n) but not to (1) anymore

B) What happened there:
thread subject (1) with initial posting (2)
-> reply (3) to (2), contentually related to (2) and (1)
-> reply (4) to (3), contentually related to (3) and (1)
-> ...
-> reply (n+1) to (n), contentually not related to (n) or (1)

See the difference now?
Or again in other words: A discussion over time diverging from the original thread subject is a natural thing to happen without strict moderation applied, which a posting put as a reply to a contentually non-related posting is not.

Something something worse than Hitler.

Just what are you lot jibber-jabbing on about anyway?
Trevor is not going to tell us on Morphzone, of all places, confidential financial information like that, now is he?

double post

[ Edited by stephen_robinson 07.04.2012 - 04:38 ]

> Trevor is not going to tell us on Morphzone, of all places, confidential financial
> information like that, now is he?

Agreed. But he could for instance tell that the betatester in question is not privy to confidential financial information like that, and thus leave open if the claim is true or false.

Must be a slow news day!

I was sent a link to this thread so I thought I'd quickly set the record straight. Having also read the (bad) google translation of the other thread I think there may be some misunderstanding? AmigaKit are a business and are obviously making a little profit from the sale and support of "First Contact" A1-X1000 systems. As I said at AmiWest last year I will make Zero return on the sale of these systems. However, the good news is that these systems will not cost me any money either I can also confirm that I have not provided any financial information to any third parties.

BTW I have recently purchased a used Mac G4 PowerBook and am looking forward to MorphOS support in the near future?

TrevorD

Edit: PS I don't get a lot of time these days to trawl all the "Amiga" forums and often miss these posts.





[ Edited by TrevorDick 09.04.2012 - 17:29 ]

Trevor, hopefully you got a "proper" PB? I mean minimum 5,6 version?

TrevorDick,
Quote:

You and me, and other too...

Quote:
I think so, I purchased the recommended hardware.

TrevorD