Tabor
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    BSzili
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    Jim wrote:
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    Somebody owes me chocolate (or beer, I can't remember), for that matter I can't remember who I bet on this with.

    Good prediction Jim!


    That's probably pavlor at amigaworld.net. By the way, shame on you for betting on a certainty! :P

    [ Edited by BSzili 08.08.2018 - 16:43 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    BSzili wrote:
    By the way, shame on you for betting on a certainty! :P


    Discussing a commercial product's viability and predicting release date 3 years ago had some people frothing at the mouth and in attack mode. People discussing it were called "apes" and other names. It was all pretty obvious to anyone employing critical thinking, but the rabid fanboys tried their best to shut it down. Those rabid fanboys have all quietly moved on one way or another. I'd say until next time, but I doubt there will be a next time. Looks like A-Eonkit will be dying on their own sword soon after swallowing a poison pill given to them by Hype. Hype is in death throes, doing desperation lawsuits and IP grabs. In the end likely only a wounded Cloanto will exist.

    My guess, but not making any bets at this point. Tabor was damn obvious though.
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    BSzili wrote:
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    Jim wrote:
    (...)

    Somebody owes me chocolate (or beer, I can't remember), for that matter I can't remember who I bet on this with.

    Good prediction Jim!


    That's probably pavlor at amigaworld.net. By the way, shame on you for betting on a certainty! :P


    How did that PT Barnum quote go exactly?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    BSzili
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    What can I say? Touché! :)
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    On page 18 of the following
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    Re: A1222 (Tabor)

    Beitrag by Cyborg »July 9, 2018 13:14
    Our part is 95% ready, I would say. The remaining 5% will be polished, optimized and tested. A few things are missing completely, but this falls in A-EON's area of ​​responsibility.
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    [ Edited by Spectre660 08.08.2018 - 16:47 ]
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    redrumloa
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    On page 18 of the following
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    Re: A1222 (Tabor)

    Beitrag by Cyborg »July 9, 2018 13:14
    Our part is 95% ready, I would say. The remaining 5% will be polished, optimized and tested. A few things are missing completely, but this falls in A-EON's area of ​​responsibility.
    .


    The long knives are coming out.

    :popcorn:
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > The long knives are coming out.

    Hyperion director Costel 'Cyborg' Mincea has been shooting against A-Eon on os4welt.de for many months, and not just with regard to Tabor.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 473 from 2008/8/10
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > The long knives are coming out.

    Hyperion director Costel 'Cyborg' Mincea has been shooting against A-Eon on os4welt.de for many months, and not just with regard to Tabor.


    True. And against Amigakit as well.
    And the counterattacks to those statements from Amigakit are public record on AW.

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    And while he was busy speaking other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .
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    >> Hyperion director Costel 'Cyborg' Mincea has been shooting against A-Eon
    >> on os4welt.de for many months, and not just with regard to Tabor.

    > True. And against Amigakit as well. And the counterattacks to those statements
    > from Amigakit are public record on AW.

    If you mean Matthew 'amigakit' Leaman, the sole A-Eon managing director and the main A-Eon shareholder (50%), then this is what I naturally include in the term "A-Eon" (after all, there is no dedicated 'a-eon' account on amigaworld.net). If you mean the online store of Leaman Computing Ltd., then no, I've not seen Cyborg shoot against this.
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    And while he was busy speaking other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .


    I think this thread makes it clear who was doing the work as well:
    Drivers for the internal network chip? (X5000)

    #6
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    > other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the
    > ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .

    Do you happen to know who wrote the Ethernet driver for the X5000?
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    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .

    [ Edited by Spectre660 09.08.2018 - 11:59 ]
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .


    Hence why I could only post the link and word it as I did.

    #6
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    Chocolate, beer, popcorn and Kronos invokes PT Barnum.
    Are you all not entertained?

    Hey, don't poke the bear too hard, they might feel compelled to produce it.
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  • »10.08.18 - 06:18
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    number6 wrote:
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .


    Hence why I could only post the link and word it as I did.

    #6


    Just trying to bring this up to date a bit:

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    The X5000 ethernet driver has been completed and will feature on the Enhancer Software v1.4.

    Source

    is this indicating an issue?

    #6
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    number6 wrote:
    Quote:

    number6 wrote:
    Quote:

    Spectre660 wrote:
    It is clear that it is A-eon but not which developer(s) is(are) doing the work for them for the x5000 driver. If it were public I would have posted it .


    Hence why I could only post the link and word it as I did.

    #6


    Just trying to bring this up to date a bit:

    Quote:

    The X5000 ethernet driver has been completed and will feature on the Enhancer Software v1.4.

    Source

    is this indicating an issue?

    #6



    Not with the builtin driver.
    CMI Sound cards can cause issues including Ethernet problems .

    Thread

    [ Edited by Spectre660 30.08.2018 - 11:43 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the
    > ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .

    Do you happen to know who wrote the Ethernet driver for the X5000?




    Enhancer Software 1.4 Released

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    We would also like to extend our thanks to Mark Olsen for his timely and professional work in implementing the X5000 ethernet driver.


    [ Edited by Spectre660 09.09.2018 - 11:01 ]
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > other developers were apparently delivering the goods for the
    > ethernet drivers for Tabor (Rene' Olsen) and X5000 .

    Do you happen to know who wrote the Ethernet driver for the X5000?




    Enhancer Software 1.4 Released

    Quote:

    We would also like to extend our thanks to Mark Olsen for his timely and professional work in implementing the X5000 ethernet driver.



    Well if that isn't a big surprise. There's a level of cooperation you wouldn't have seen a few years ago.

    Very cool.

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    We are very grateful to Mark (and Frank) for their help with this component. It was a great contribution to the latest Enhancer Software.
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    > We are very grateful to Mark (and Frank) for their help with this component.

    Are they allowed to use the code in a future MorphOS release?
  • »09.09.18 - 21:56
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    I‘d guess it was the other way round, them providing sources already done for the MorphOS version.
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    them providing sources


    Is it based on some open source licensed code? Otherwise providing binaries should suffice... ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    The Linux fortune of Tabor isn't looking very bright either. It's QorIQ P1022 powerpc-spe CPUs support is already obsoleted in gcc 8.x (klick) and will be thrown out in gcc 9.x if nobody steps up to actively maintain it.

    I guess code can still be compiled with gcc using another -mcpu target for e500 or generic ppc. But I suppose it will be hard to utilize floating point instructions then as this is the job of the SPE?
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