if I ctrl+C outside OWB to copy this error message to the forum OWB shut down and cannot be restarted, I need to restart MOS to be able to restart OWB. Any clue why the ctrl+C gives me this outcome. ctrl+c inside OWB does not give this result

you dont copy with ctrl+c. you have to press rcommand+c or lcommand+c (amiga/apple/windows button on the keyboard)

[+] Thanks Cego- it works with using the right command button+c om the Mac Keyboard and paste with rcommand+v.

[-] But why does OWB lock down and cannot be restarted without reboot OS if you do ctrl+c outside OWB.

This is naturally a typical WIN copy paste behaviour and I wonder if it makes sense that the browser is locked ? What is the purpose or is it a bug?

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OWB works with Webkit HTML rendering engine so it inherits a vaste number of combinations of keys form alien operating systems.

I think it has been made intentionally for a practical purpose.

For example it clears the address input bar with CTRL +X combination.

However I tried many times CTRL +C CTRL +V combinations. They copy and paste only ASCII set code.

If I want to copy and paste international characters such as japanese, I need to use LeftAMIGA (LeftCommand) +C and LeftAmiga (LeftCommand) +V, that are able to copy all UTF8 international character set.

Also CTRL +C CTRL +V combination leaves an obnoxious ">" character in the begiining of the copied string, that must be deleted in most occasions.


> Copied with CTRL +C


I mean, ">" character at the beginning it is good for quoting, but not when you need a precise cut & paste of entire string, such as in passwords.


[ Edited by Raf_MegaByte 27.12.2014 - 11:05 ]

Guys, since you are talking about shortcuts, I have a question for you all.
I have recently purchased a gaming Gigabyte keyboard which runs nice on the PC. I wanted to test it under MorphOS too, just to check if it recognized and if yes why not purchase another one, however I discovered that it has no right windows button! It's kinda custom made for gaming purposes and only features an Fn key and a lock win key (triggered when in online gaming in order to prevent accidental press of the left windows/start button). So, is it possible to define a new RAmiga/RCommand key via a utility or something?

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What error message you are trying to copy? Some OWB related? Did OWB open new output window? If you try to use CTRL-C on output window it tells to program owning that window to quit itself.

CTRL-C is commonly used to quit/break/abort programs in many operating systems (Amiga, Linux/unix variants, Mac etc). Microsoft has yet again messed things up and made it working as non standard copy command :) This causes many problems on all platforms :)

In Amiga, MorphOS, OSX etc you use command-c to copy and CTRL-C is for aborting programs. Although some programs in MorphOS give you an option to copy/paste with CTRL too, just for making Windows users more comfortable, but as seen, it may cause problems and I'm not sure if it's a good behaviour afterall. You can look for example Keyboard section in MUI prefs and see that both command and CTRL options are enabled by default with MUI programs under MorphOS.

I seem to be to deeply into Windows. :)

I can understand ctrl - c aborts OWB, but I cant understand why I cant restart OWB without restarting MOS

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Maybe it wasn't OWB's output window, but Netstack's instead. If you kill Netstack it also kills OWB, and OWB won't start up without working TCP/IP stack running.

It's an another question if OWB should be run in offline mode without TCP/IP stack, but that's not up to MorphOS, but should be asked from OWB's developer (Fab).

In any case, MorphOS usually has TCP/IP stack running on boot, if not killed on purpose. And in this case (probably) you shoud start both TCP/IP stack (Netstack) and OWB to get in original situation and be able to browse the net again.

[ Edited by jPV 04.01.2015 - 19:34 ]

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That truly makes sense now. I believe that is what happened.

Thanks for clarifying jPV!

/Tom

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Look at USB-Prefs (If your KB is USB-type). There your keyboard should be listed (HID-class) -> double click on it opens general device information -> Keyboard should be listed at "Interfaces" -> double click opens hid-class-prefs. There take look at Keyboard and Action.........here you can redefine keys......

[ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 04.01.2015 - 20:50 ]

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I don't know what happened in your case, but Odyssey handles ctrl-c properly and just quits when triggered. And of course, it can be restarted after that (unless you don't have a large enough contiguous memory block anymore to load the binary in memory).