VooDoo asked for native serial.device for classic Amiga builtin serial port. I think i can help a bit here.
Did you try to compile an example which comes with MorphOS SDK? It looks like it's exactly what you need. It's limited to 8n1 mode but it works!
If noone built this, i can try to do this. In case of success it will become one more package for Unmorphos project. But, have to warn, sorry, i can't actively maintain the package because i have neither time nor hardware to test it. So maintainer will be wanted.

Yeah Sonic..I need this device..but I dont how i can compile this..please if here is one Coder who have free time..coding this device for all MOS pup usere..thanks..

and sorry on bad english

Well, at least i have 20 minutes to build the existing code and another 20 minutes to import it into the CVS. I'd like to use any opportunity to make my project more popular. May be someone will pick it up then... Wait for the binary on monday.

Oh man thanx..you are great!!

Deeply appreciated sonic!
As you can read in the thread "Too slow internet access under MOS", internet access is unacceptably slow for classic MOS users with a serial modem. That's the only reason that forces me switch to AOS, every time i want to go on-line.
When i made that thread, i was not able to use the MOS native serial.device from the MorphOS 0.4 package, so the blame was put to the 68k serial device.
I don't remember exactly what changes i did, but now i CAN use it, and you know what? It doesn't appear to be much faster than the built-in serial device of miami! Internet is still too slow!... (8n1.device.elf still doesn't work for me)
Is there an explanation for this? Does this suggest that the problem is not the serial.device but some other factor? (Just a thought, i don't really know)

@AmigaMancer

Very strange..And i copy 68k serial.device to MOS/DEVS but don't work..only work when I using built-in serial from Miami...and plese if you knoe what changes you make..post here..thanks..I'am crazy whit this slow Net acces :(

@Voodoo
It drives me crazy too. This, and the lack of interest among the classic users.
I'm not sure of what i did but, as i said, it will not help you anyway. The MOS version is not faster than the 68k one,(at least for me) so i'm beginning to believe that the problem lies elsewhere.
You can try to play with the serial speed of miami and the debug arguments of the MOS startup command. I remember playing with these.

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The only thing you should make sure of is that serial debug is off (ie, ramdebug is on), otherwise you would get in trouble. ;)

Apart from that, I remember (from the old pre-1.x times) that Miami serial was slow (it was throwing hits or something (maybe it's banging CIA timer)), but I'm fairly sure 8n1 worked (though, maybe something broke it (and since none of us actually use it anymore, it would probably have gone unnoticed)) .. but maybe Sonic can figure it out... ;)


- CISC

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I don't think there is a lack of interest among the classic users. Just the lack of right hardware

Alot of people was like "YAY!! Finaly a PPC os for our amiga" to later be "What ?? it doesn't support this? and that ? and that too ?"

I totlay understand why. Can't make drivers for something you don't have. But i think drivers is the biggest problem to not getting alot of response from classic users.

I do not agree.
Thousands of compatible BlizzardPPC/CyberstormPPC/BVisionPPC/CVisionPPC were sold.

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But more Mediators were sold than Grex I bet.

There were thousands of C/BVisionPPC sold, still.
And those ones only work with a PowerUP board... unlike Mediators bought by many 68k users.

[ Edited by Henes on 2005/9/10 20:02 ]

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Quite true, but it's a shame Mediator isn't supported by MOS as I've been told that OS4 for PowerUP works with Mediators just fine.

I built the driver. Now i need testers since i don't have the hardware.
I placed the file on MorphZone, but it takes time to process it, so if you want it immediately, call me on IRC (Sonic^Work) or better drop me a email to sonic_amiga@rambler.ru. I'll send you the archive for testing.

The file is approoved and can be downloaded here:
https://morph.zone/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=333
Feel free to test.
Note that original m68k serial.device grabs serial port resources and can not free them, so to be able to use new device you'll have to install it, reboot, and only then try it.
If you decide to use new device under name "8n1.device" and keep original serial.device, the same rule applies. This means that if any program opened serial.device at least once, you won't be able to use 8n1.device even after you close that program. A reboot will be needed. It's a feature of original m68k serial.device.
An alternative way to unload it is "AVAIL FLUSH" command, but to tell the truth i don't remember exactly if this really works. I played with it a while ago.

[ Edited by Sonic on 2005/9/12 12:03 ]

I test this serial.device...but don't work :( I got the same error.."Miami Deluxe is unable to open device 'DEVS:serial.device.elf' unit 1 The device might be in use error 0."

I copy this two files in MOS devs with orginal names but don't work..and dont know why..any here have better experince whti this device?

Unit 1??? Why??? There should be unit 0! There are no other units except 0 on Amiga.
Probably it's a mis-feature of original serial.device that it accepts any unit number. But it really should be 0. So fix your settings.

..now I try whit unit 0 the same error :(..and when i rename (delete .elf) this two files from DOpus 4 i click on online i MiamiDX..and no error but only have request whit "reseting modem"..and wait ,,wait..wait..and nothing :(

You shouldn't rename the file. It should be "serial.device.elf".
However in Miami you should enter a device name "serial.device"
(with out ".elf"). Maybe that's why it doesn't work?

[ Edited by March on 2005/9/12 13:12 ]

@March

Don't know..I will try ..ohh..

@March

@March

I try ..but no luck..dont work..only Info "resetting modem" and that is all..

@mdma

You can read here that current os4 doesn't support the mediator :
http://main.aminet.net/hard/drivr/openpci.readme

So os4 drivers can't work.
I guess the pci bus and cards are completly handled by elbox' 68k library and drivers.
But they have no driver for cgx as used in morphos.

Maybe the mediator sound and network device drivers work in morphos, though.

Are you 100% sure that you have disabled (redirected to RAM) the MorphOS buildin serial debug? When is is enabled none serial device will work... I'm just guessing, I don't have a working A1200 any more, so I can't test.

I can't connect with this device. In my case, i press the OnLine button, the miami's dial window opens and at the end of the dial (when the noise of the modem stops) it idles for half a minute and then it timeouts. The pointer becomes busy and the Whole desktop freezes...
Anyway i will continue testing it, tomorrow. I'm not very optimistic about the whole thing, though.

@sonic
Let's say that after a few attempts you manage to make this device work, would there be any benefit over the serial.device of MOS v0.4, which already exist?
Also, if you haven't done it already, spend a minute to read my previous posts.

@Voodoo
It seems like your problems are not related to this particular device, but with all external devices. So, no matter what correction sonic will make to it, you will continue to have these problems.


[ Edited by AmigaMancer on 2005/9/13 0:46 ]