firstly, have to say the MOS_SDK full environment
installs perfectly... why didn't this kind of set
up exist on m68k? :D

where is the closest Peg dealer to New Zealand (aussie?)
that actually has stocks in now?

and honestly, are we going to be able to register our
classic copies of MorphOS anytime soon or at all? I'd
like to see my compiled mud codebases last for more
than 2 hours at a time :)

thanks team

Don't know about the closest one, but the furthest one, GGS-data, has
them in stock currently.

There's an email address at http://www.pegasos-au.com/
so why not ask them about it.

thanks for that, I'm sure I was a member of the boing site quite some time ago... I'll contact them about there product...

I guess if you're going to order from a non-local dealer, it doesn't really matter much how far away it is...

And were you after Pegasos 1 or 2? I guess only 2's area available as new, and 1's (mostly) only as second hand.

640 posts should be enough for everyone

[ Edited by Jupp3 on 2006/7/20 8:53 ]

This is true...

now for a few more technical specific opinions...

If you were to purchase a new peg2 system and money wasn't much of a concern (lets just leave out the 8 gig memory
barrier for the moment :D )

what would you get in a complete system?

I'm thinking 1 gig like my ordered A1 from last May that
never arrived...

although 2 gig sounds good too...

ultimately 8 gig would be nice for DVD manipulation
etc... power junkie status and alike :D

comedy aside, any serious advice with reasons why
etc?

also, what to steer clear of?

thanks people... And even though I am serious about
buying this Peg2 machine... I'd still like the reg
of classic fixed please...

sorry, had to push it once more ;)

512MB should be more than enough. I have 768MB now (Peg2) but my old Peg1 with 128MB was just fine.

itix, that's just crazy... never settle for just enough...

not in the cpu world :D

I own over 40 complete systems for classic amiga os... I still buy machines now and software... I'm not rich by any
means but it's my only vice ;)

So, if I'm going to go Peg2 I'm going in style :D and even
if it goes nowhere just like the Amiga line of cpus, it'll
still do what it is supposed to do twenty years from now

:D

I need some input from some crazy power users ;)

Well, the limit is not 8GB as far as I know, not for MOS at least. I
think it's somewhere just under 2GB but I may remember wrong.

I have half a gig here and never ever got close to needing it (I
waste as much as I can on disk caches etc
But one gig definitely works and hey.. if you ever need more, it's
standard memory sticks.

If you want to be extravagant, I guess the peripheral to save your
money for is a nice monitor and a decent gfx card. Plenty of disk
never hurts of course, and a nice case and DVDR of course (rules for
backups). Wireless network card? Some USB toys of your choice? Can't
think of much else to add really.

A few recommendations:

If you're going to get a G4 system (as I guess you will) and you will use "relatively big case" (well, anyhing bigger than Antec Aria or ODW case) I'd recommend replacing the standard cooler with Zalman passive cooler & have a big separate fan blowing air towards it.

If you're going to order a pre-built system, you could request something like that.

It should go without a saying, that use only 80pin IDE cables. That's definitely a wrong place to save in

For a gfx card, remember that a bigger number definitely does NOT mean, it's better than "lower ones". Probably the fastest 3D gfx card currently supported by MorphOS is Radeon 9000 Pro (which I have, works nicely) which definitely kicks 9200's & 9250's ass.

Also for most models, there's normal/pro version and SE (sucky/slow edition), it isn't always clear which one the card is.

Quote:

If you do, and when you get it delivered, you should go here the first thing you do for some good info about setting up your Peg and MorphOS:

http://www.morphos-news.de/beta2help/

That will get you *started*, and then you will have to go from there. There are a lot of things you might want to download and set up!

Thanks for the information people! :D

just few specific questions if I may...

@merko

what software you use for burning? I remember using dvdrtools
or more importantly cdrtools and mkisofs for the m68k... no
matter what I did I could never burn a dvd past the limitations
of dos...

there were a few pipe options I could have looked at later but
I was over it by then... does Morphos support the | symbol like
unix? i.e. can I read directorys with mkisofs and burn it via
cdrtools on the same command line?

if you don't know what I mean, then sorry...

I even compiled my own versions of above tools but later versions
never seemed to provide the code to join the images created by
mkisofs...

i.e mkisofs can break up an image into 1 gig segments... trouble
is... cdrtools/dvdrtools miss the proper code to burn and merge
the images...

perhaps the recent version of dvdrtools to aminet addresses something
like this...

in short, sorry to go on and on... has Morphos got pipes like unix?

;)

@Jupp3

thanks very much for the specialised suggestions. I will do a number
of this things!

can you be more specific regarding the IDE cables? or will simply
stipulating 80pin IDE is enough? and what consideration should I
give to particular brand of IDE I need?

I have maxtor 60gigs and Western digital 120gigs (which incidently
do not want to boot up from on AmigaOS but fine for a slave
storage) installed in a few of my A4000 Desktops... but that is
as far as my experience with IDE goes... heh

also... is there something I can refer too to make the clearification
of 9000 pro more precise when ordering?

@takemehomegrandma

important stuff, appreciated! :D

Hi Slayer,

For dvd / cd burning, Frying Pan works just fine on MorphOS, you can register it by contacting me directly if you want to use paypal method.
The author has made a very good job until now for Frying Pan !

Your 2 harddrives should work without problem on a Pegasos 2 if you use 80 pin IDE cable of course.

Yes, the radeon 9000 pro is the best but, unfortunately, it's very hard to find them at reseller's shop ! The radeon 9250 Non S.E. is yet a good graphic card.

Faranheit

Slayer

Hi. Welcome to the community

Some notes:

1. Its not "80 pin" Its 80 WIRE - every other wire is grounded. IIRC its 40 pins on the connector.Try to use flat cable, they are better than round. Use ATA 133 rated 80wire cabling for IDE

2. One of the best cards for morphos for 2d and 3d is the Radeon 8500/9100 series : we have these available for international shipping at good us prices :)

3. Also I have 80mb/sec Symbios 895 UWSCSI pci cards for your peg. The fastest for MOS and works with linux too! Great for xfer or usage of Amiga SCSI drives with Pegasos for only $39.95 US!

magnetic

>The author has made a very good job until now for Frying Pan !

Until now? So he started doing bad job lately... wouldnt recommend the software to anyone in that case

Hi :;)

@hooligan

I say until now, ok, but I do not say that he has stoped the development !!
If you prefer, Frying Pan is a very good software which is better day by day !

Clearer now ??!!

Faranheit

Hi Slayer,

Quote:

You have to figure out if it works to use with cdrtools or dvdrtools Haven't tried myself. It should also be possible to create a script that do several things after each other.

The small example below pipes the output to type.

cat s:user-startup >pipe: | type pipe:

No problems with pipes. For instance, you can type:

Dir SYS: ALL | Next

to send the output of Dir in Next window, obtaining windowed output outside the shell on the fly (you need Next from Aminet).

[ Edited by DoctorMorbius_FP on 2006/7/23 0:24 ]

I asked a question about registration about 3 months ago, but nothing since then. I've been trying without any result to register myself but the registration tool is out of order.

Please, could anyone tell us how much longer are we to wait in order to register the PowerUp Morph Os?

@Sir_Lucas

perhaps its been established that via frustration there are more Pegs brought... I think the ideal from which the concept grew in the first place should be revisited... after using something nice (morphos) in this unpowered way it wouldn't be long before you took that step to getting a better system. People who don't weren't interested in MOS in the first place.

but in the interests of better relations I'm trying to keep any of my cynical contemplations at bay :D

@Gunne, DM_FP

nodnod, I've been down this road many times on m68k... I'm just hoping MOS can actually do it! As for scripting, I use batch files for everything but generally wait till I can get a command line to actually work... ;)

I'm a shell type guy that recognises dvdrtools and alike are great utilities... who ever decided gui programs were the way to go? without the likes of arexx etc (to try and put an arguement that way) it generally removes the ability for us to create useful scripts!

Slayer,

Code:

Sure, no problem with the command line. Just use it

Code:

If You do remove the Ambient binary from the system, you will end up with only a shell window