ENV problem
  • Caterpillar
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    LawlessPPC
    Posts: 35 from 2006/1/22
    just started using a copy of my own rom/ Kickstart image and now during boot I get a requester asking for ENV. I cant find anything that is asking for it in the startup before the assign has been made in the second startup-sequence. Really annoying problem. Anyone else experienced this ????

    [ Edited by LawlessPPC on 2006/4/25 20:05 ]
  • »25.04.06 - 17:22
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    merko
    Posts: 328 from 2003/5/19
    Kickstart image, what system is this?

    Anyway, why are you messing around with the ENV assigns? Just leave
    them in the beginning of startup-sequence where they always are by
    default.
  • »25.04.06 - 18:01
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    "Kickstart image, what system is this?"

    what? don't you know? its a modified 1.7Ghz AmigaOne..what else? :roll:
  • »25.04.06 - 18:57
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  • Caterpillar
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    LawlessPPC
    Posts: 35 from 2006/1/22
    in answer to the question what system is this? Look at the forum its in. Its a1200 all singing. I havnt touched a single assign regarding ENV.

    Sorry if this sounds blunt but why comment in this way especially as you are so off par its untrue.

    If you are not aware of this problem or have no idea what I'm on about then please dont hinder the process of me aleast trying to find a solution.
  • »25.04.06 - 19:30
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    merko
    Posts: 328 from 2003/5/19
    Sorry, I missed the forum name (saw the post on main page).

    But really, I do doubt that ENV: should be set up in user-startup. It
    is needed by system components launched in startup-sequence and I
    can't see why it should (or how it could) have been removed from
    startup-sequence in the powerup release.

    You could use a tool such as SnoopDos to find out exactly what uses
    ENV:.

    But I meant to be helpful and I still very much believe that ENV:
    should be set up very early in startup-sequence.
  • »25.04.06 - 19:58
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  • Caterpillar
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    LawlessPPC
    Posts: 35 from 2006/1/22
    apologies Merko. I have just re read my original post and edited it accordingly. I put user startup where it should have been startup-sequence. Of which on the powerup version it executes 2. The first one just kinda resets the amiga and makes certain modules resident including my rom / kickstart image. The second startup-sequence does all the usual few assigns in memory launch monitor drivers etc. Perhaps people may be able to help now they kow what my problem or circumstances really are
  • »25.04.06 - 20:09
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 130 from 2005/10/12
    From: Wellington
    @LawlessPPC

    Sorry can't help, but I have exactly the same problem trying to get MOS PUP to work on my A4000 with CS PPC.? Just thiught I'd let you know.
  • »24.05.06 - 13:14
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  • Caterpillar
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    LawlessPPC
    Posts: 35 from 2006/1/22
    @TrevorDick

    I have no problems getting morrph to boot at all in fact it is now the
    only OS I run. Ive just done a fresh install of it because I got a
    fresh 73GB U320 scsi hardrive. No probs this time with the rom image
    but I have no assigns made yet inn the startup so hopefully this time
    when I make the new assigns I may find the problem. I've a sneaky
    suspicion it may have been easynet/amitcp that may have caused the env
    problem. It would still continue to boot when I clicked cancel when it
    asked for volume env.
  • »25.05.06 - 14:02
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    i've already heard about this ENV problem. IIRC its due a truncated S-S (i.e if you have edited the S-S with ED) and/or a filesystem that doesn't support long filenames.
  • »25.05.06 - 15:14
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 130 from 2005/10/12
    From: Wellington
    @LawlessPPC

    Glad to hear you have MOS PUP up & running.:-) I'm still having problems however and can't seem to get past the first stage. I can't even boot of the PUP CD-ROM. I would be grateful for any advice you could give. I would like to get it running but after spending the best part of 3 days working on it I'm about to bin the idea and stick with OS3.9.



    [ Edited by TrevorDick on 2006/5/25 19:37 ]
  • »25.05.06 - 17:12
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  • Caterpillar
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    LawlessPPC
    Posts: 35 from 2006/1/22
    @TrevorDick
    Please tell the full config of the system you are trying to run it on
    including if its an ide drive you are trying to boot of or scsi
  • »25.05.06 - 17:48
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 130 from 2005/10/12
    From: Wellington
    @LawlessPPC

    The A4000 I am using has both ide and scsi (fastlane interface) HDD's. I first tried staright from the CD-ROM and the scsi drive following the simple startup instructions. No joy.

    I then repartitioned the scsi with SFS and copied the cd-rom to the low priority boot partition. I attempted to (manually) boot off the selected scsi partition. No joy.

    I tried endless edits of the startup sequence - No joy

    I tried boot from the ide/ CDRom combination - No joy.

    I am now going to copy the contents of the PUP cd-rom to a bootable partition om the ide HDD and attempt to boot again.

    The ide drive has the standard AOS ffs.

    My completer setup is:-

    Cyberstorm PPC/230e/060 with CS 64/3D, 18MB ram on A4000, 64MB ram on CS and 64MB on fastlane card.

    The system works fine under OS3.9.

    Update: Manually booting of the internal ide drive (ffs system) and guess what? MorphOS boots up without any changes to the startup-sequence!!:yell:

    I need to create at least 16bit screen mode for ambient as only an 8-bit mode seems to be included, but at leasy I seem to be making progress. :-)



    [ Edited by TrevorDick on 2006/5/25 20:49 ]

    [ Edited by TrevorDick on 2006/5/25 20:51 ]
  • »25.05.06 - 19:48
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 130 from 2005/10/12
    From: Wellington
    OK I'm almost there I think?

    I can boot up MorphOS and the intro splash screen is displayed (butterfly & MorphOS) then I get a requester telling me to set up a 16/24bit screen mode for Ambient. However only 8bitCV64/3D sceen modes are displayed in screen mode window. I copied my monitor prefs from the Amiga OS3.9 side which has 1024x768 16/24 bit modes but these don't seem to show up in the screemode utility. Therefore I can't run Ambient. I can run a shell window and have full access and control of all the facilities under morphos but not the ambient screen. I presume this is a simple fix? Can anyone advise how I might obtain access of the 16/24 bit modes on bootup to enable me to run ambient. Thanks.

    [ Edited by TrevorDick on 2006/5/25 22:41 ]
  • »25.05.06 - 22:40
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 130 from 2005/10/12
    From: Wellington
    EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Copied cybervison3dmonitor prefs from my OS3.9 system to the sys:prefs/env-archive/cybergraphx directory and all now works OK. Unbelievable :-)

    Thanks to those who made useful suggestions.
  • »25.05.06 - 23:32
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    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    You probably must visit ModeEdit (MOSSYS:Prefs/Preferences).

    (Edit: ok, too late.)

    [ Edited by itix on 2006/5/26 1:37 ]
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  • »25.05.06 - 23:34
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 130 from 2005/10/12
    From: Wellington
    @itix

    Quote:

    You probably must visit ModeEdit (MOSSYS:Prefs/Preferences).


    Thanks but that was my problem. I couldn't run ModeEdit without Ambient running and I couldn't run Ambient without the correct screen mode? (A bit like "theres a hole in my bucket").

    Is there a wat of running ModeEdit from a shell window?
  • »25.05.06 - 23:57
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Henes
    Posts: 507 from 2003/6/14
    To get ModeEdit:
    CD MOSSYS:Prefs/
    Preferences mprefs/ModeEdit.mprefs

    To get all prefs:
    MOSSYS:Prefs/Preferences
  • »30.05.06 - 00:58
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