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Ugh, the built-in 2d graphics chip?
Sorry missed that as I'd never considered it.

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Yes, and audio is crappy too ... so does MOS see a PCI-E sound card that Acube sells?

Well, SATA controller, I have SiL and would use faster one IF OS4 and LINUX see it too ...

You see, I understand why it isn`t easy to do MOS for SAM460

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Thanks, it doesnt work on X1000 even with Wazp3D

There is alist of supported audio chips on the morphos homepage, wether thats onboard pci or pcie probraly won't much difference.
Imo best way:
Supported pcie gfx
Supported pcie sata
Supported pci sound (3.3V sblive! might be the best option)

But as allways dont buy until an official release has been announced including detailed list of supported HW.

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I ask you mighty Puppet so I don`t have to compare

I have:

- Integrated crap onboard of SAM460
- Sound Blaster 5.1 with EMU101k PCI but I damn it need PCI slot for SATA
- option to buy PCI-E x1 card from Acube, damn it they dont have it %$$!#$! I can dag out what card it was ...

I asked Enrico how to solve that shitty siuation that begins with bad SATA onboard (unlike SAM440) and bad sound and 2D (unlike SAM440EX) and he ... didn`t really reply

> the built-in 2d graphics chip?

Yes. It does audio, too.

> Sorry missed that as I'd never considered it.

I remember that you put at least a little research into Silicon Motion's product line:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7001&start=42

> it doesnt work on X1000 even with Wazp3D

Payback should work on OS4/X1000 with a PCI Radeon 92x0 card.

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Software Tycoon doesn't seem to be available for sale nor download anywhere AFAICT...they need to get their supply issues sorted out, it has been this way for years...

> option to buy PCI-E x1 card from Acube, damn it they dont have it %$$!#$! I can
> dag out what card it was

http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz/?p=899
http://www.acube-systems.biz/index.php?page=news&id=118
https://acube-systemsbiz.serversicuro.it/shop/en/accessories/86-envy24dt-pcie-audio-card.html

> Software Tycoon doesn't seem to be available for sale nor download anywhere AFAICT

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=10&topic_id=8432&start=35

> they need to get their supply issues sorted out, it has been this way for years

It's probably just remaining stock anyway, so sorting out of supply issues is out of question.

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Is anyone selling it (used one)? Its really nice game!
Nightlong too ...
Wipeout ..
HeretiC II ...

All those things I could not play on my A1200 28Mhz 2MB chip 4MB Fast CDROM HDD

[ Edited by vox 06.01.2014 - 13:36 ]

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Yeah yeah and I shoul lift Radeon 6870 out to insert that crap
that I cant find ... Get real.

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Thanks a lot Andreas, much love to you for help!

I could not find it in SHOP -> ACESSORIES

Anyway, is Envy24 supported under MOS and Linux and would
MOS read it in PCI-E slot

Is there a PCI -> PCI-E x1 converter to insert my SB 5,1?

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The Swedish Amiga store GGS Data still has it as a hard copy, but I don't know if he will ship abroad. Mail and ask him.

http://www.ggsdata.se/index.php?page=php/showproduct.php?art_id=13020

I have no idea if the game is any fun though.

>> Payback should work on OS4/X1000 with a PCI Radeon 92x0 card.

> Yeah yeah and I shoul lift Radeon 6870 out to insert that crap that I cant find ...
> Get real.

I am for real. Inserting a PCI Radeon in Nemo doesn't require lifting the PCIe Radeon. You can find Warp3D-supported PCI Radeon cards for instance there:

http://www.amiga-shop.net/index.php?cPath=38_51_73

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Yes, VOX. Andreas is almost always serious.
And the same cards that support Warp-3d functions under MorphOS work under OS4 as well.

Even once the HD cards have 3D support, the earlier cards will have this advantage.

> the same cards that support Warp-3d functions under MorphOS work under OS4 as well.

Not quite. Cards with R200 GPU (the actual chip, not the family) like 8500 and 9100 don't work in 3D under OS4.

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=6047&start=26

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Wow!
And OS4 looks even worse to me.
They don't support the most powerful members of the R200 family cards.

Edit: Oh VOX, if you are ever in doubt of a fact.
Die Master-Indexer, Andreas Wolf, Ihre wichtigste Ressource.

[ Edited by Jim 06.01.2014 - 14:35 ]

> is Envy24 supported under MOS [...] and would MOS read it in PCI-E slot

There is a MorphOS driver for Envy24HT:

http://www.audio-evolution.com/drivers_mos/

But I don't know if PCIe cards are supported by this.

@Jim

I think only the Radeon 9250 is fully supported in AOS4.

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Well as there is virtually no difference between the 9000, 9200, and 9250 from a driver's perspective, I'd have to question that.

To be pedantic, sofar there is only 1 Radeon driver for all cards supporting 1 at a time
So in setup with a pcie radeonHD and pci radeon 9250 it would really depend on which card gets inittialized first. Only that card would be useable under MorphOS.

@Jim

All I know is that they offer that card in the X1000 so they can play 3D games. And from what I've read, the other cards are either not fully supported or lack 3D. Or both.

[ Edited by Yasu 06.01.2014 - 16:10 ]

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Isn't that odd?
They seriously downgrade the video card to support 3D.

@Jim

Not really. I think it was one of the first card that they worked with, back in the old days before even the SAM.