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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Cinnamon writer [...] is more `Amiga-like`

    Scriba uses MUI. What does Cinnamon Writer use?

    > Cinnamon writer [...] is of course open source.

    It is?
  • »30.09.12 - 15:21
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    I`m not sure what gfx toolkit CW uses actually, I do know the author is open to MOS port though but I see now that you are correct - it is closed source.

    We`ll see how he responds to my email.
    Fraggle
  • »30.09.12 - 16:23
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  • MorphOS Developer
    zukow
    Posts: 642 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    Cinammon Writer uses SDL afaik.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    runequester
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/11
    Fraggle - Thats why we voted no to the Euro in Denmark ;) To heck with that stuff.


    As far as word processing, I think the two primary targets should be:
    1: Import (and save as) MS office and open document formats
    2: Export to PDF.

    I don't mind libreoffice personally, it's very solid but it's also "heavy". Whether it could be changed to function in an MUI sense, who knows.
    Amiga 1200 and G4 MDD MOS as my main computers.
  • »30.09.12 - 16:53
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    Senex
    Posts: 498 from 2003/2/17
    From: Hannover / Ger...
    Quote:

    I must admit I haven`t looked at Scriba yet as I understood it was at a very early stage and I was hoping to get the FW97 sources, however as that seems to be a non-starter perhaps Scriba is the best place to invest.


    So did anybody follow the leads from the other thread at all?

    With regard to Scriba, one of my favourite dialogues is the following:

    Scriba user: "The 'Del' key in your case deletes on the left of the cursor. But it should delete on the right side of the cursor."

    Scriba author: "Looking at ED, I see what you mean. That's something I can change, of course." ;-)
  • »30.09.12 - 17:16
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    Yeah I`m def not going with Scriba.

    WRT the leads, I only tried one and got no response maybe I should try harder before cashing up the Cinnamon port.
    Fraggle
  • »30.09.12 - 17:34
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Cinammon Writer uses SDL afaik.

    From 2.5 years ago:

    "SDL is no longer used."
    http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2010-04-00010-EN.html
  • »30.09.12 - 18:34
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    szt
    Posts: 53 from 2004/10/9
    From: Hungary
    Scriba has already got some very good features: open and save .odt documents, export to pdf, handle the pictures within the document, basic textformatting, lists, properly working del key :-) etc. And as far as I know, it is continuously being developed nowadays, which is a useful characteristic of it.
    MorphOS 3.9
    PowerMac 7,3, 1,8GHz,
    Radeon 9600
    300 GB SeagateHDD, 120 GB Samsung SSD
    LGM2382D, Canon MG7550
  • »30.09.12 - 20:22
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Hey Fraggle,
    Cinnamon Writer looks like the more feature filled, mature program.
    Why don't you donate some money to it and maybe offer a bounty for the MorphOS port?
    The author apparently doesn't think porting it would be a major undertaking.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »30.09.12 - 20:47
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    runequester
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/11
    I haven't been able to actually open an odt file yet in Scriba. It does get updated quickly so who knows, maybe it'll become something useful ?
    Amiga 1200 and G4 MDD MOS as my main computers.
  • »30.09.12 - 20:50
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    Hi all,

    I`ve received a response from the Cinnamon writer author and he is open to and is in fact working on a MOS port (I`m sure he won`t mind my saying so here) but he doesn`t have a MOS machine to test on ATM.

    He is not keen on having lumps of money thrown at him until his work is approved by the community which I consider very noble, so I think he should be provided with a machine, perhaps a mac mini or an old powermac (with or even without a licence I guess would be sufficient). I can provide this or perhaps someone else has something available to offer? Then, once we have evaluated Cinnamon writer and determined that it is a good investment, I (we?) can start giving him money.

    What do you all think?
    Fraggle
  • »30.09.12 - 21:29
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Where is he located, Germany?
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »30.09.12 - 21:33
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    His email is .be which is Belgium I believe.
    Fraggle
  • »30.09.12 - 21:38
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Fraggle,
    Quote:

    His email is .be



    Ah, I mis-read that.
    I thought it was .de
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »30.09.12 - 23:34
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2794 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    @Fraggle,

    I think it is an excellent idea to provide a MorphOS3.1 compatible computer to the author of Cinnamon Writer. I gave a few away last year to other programmers, but if I had known that the author of Cinnamon Writer was interested in running a MorphOS3.1 computer, I probably would have saved one of those I gave away, and given it to him instead.

    I don't have the extra funds now to help purchase another MorphOS3.1 compatible computer to send to him, and probably won't have any disposable income until after the first of next year to donate toward MorphOS programmers, or bounties, but if I did, I would gladly donate toward providing a MorphOS3.1 compatible computer for the author of Cinnamon Writer.
    MorphOS - The best Next Gen Amiga choice.
  • »01.10.12 - 05:05
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    I saw a 1.5 GHz Mac Mini listed on Amibay, but I can't remember my login for that to check with the poster.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »01.10.12 - 05:28
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    There are plenty on ebay for about 150 quid each - I`ll get one shipped to him ASAP.
    Fraggle
  • »01.10.12 - 10:06
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2794 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    G4 MacMini's are excellent choices for running MorphOS3.1. The 1.5GHz models are better than all the other models, due to them having 64mb of VRAM, instead of only 32mb of VRAM, but even the models with 32mb of VRAM will work well enough to do MorphOS3.1 programming, or check any developers code to see if it will run okay on MorphOS3.1.

    I was lucky enough to find a very good deal on several 1.5GHz G4 MacMini's last year, so that is what I bought and gave away to a couple of programmers who wanted to run MorphOS and check their code on, to make sure it works with the latest versions.
    MorphOS - The best Next Gen Amiga choice.
  • »01.10.12 - 20:33
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1224 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Afaik (new) EFIKA are also available at very low price and MOS-licence is only €49.- For developing a wordprocessor this board should have enough resources.....
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »02.10.12 - 07:56
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1031 from 2004/9/23
    There is only one PPC Efika and it is more expensive than a second hand mini.

    The price for the 5200b board is around 180 Euro. In addition you need power supply, case, harddrive and a GFX Board.

    Geit


    [ Edited by geit 02.10.2012 - 10:45 ]
  • »02.10.12 - 10:43
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > The price for the 5200b board is around 180 Euro.

    99 USD at http://www.directron.com/efika.html since at least 5 years ago.
    This is about 77 EUR currently. Of course, VAT and shipping costs may have to be added depending on destination.
  • »02.10.12 - 12:16
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1031 from 2004/9/23
    1. No clue if they ever/still sell these boards.
    2. I talk about real prices and thats a price I know.

    And adding all the stuff makes it still more expensive than a mini.

    Geit
  • »02.10.12 - 13:07
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > No clue if they ever/still sell these boards.

    They say they do. Unless someone says he unsuccessfully tried to order from them I'm inclined to believe them.
    As for "ever", you're joking right? There're 3 customer reviews on the page and they don't look forged to me.

    > I talk about real prices

    Me too.

    > and thats a price I know.

    Yes, that's why I told you the Directron price, as you weren't aware of it obviously.

    > adding all the stuff makes it still more expensive than a mini

    Yes, I didn't dispute that. I was just responding to the board price you quoted.
  • »02.10.12 - 13:23
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    It`s really a pointless discussion for two cheeky reasons:

    1). There is no reason to need an Efika :/

    2). I am going to buy Claus a Mac-mini ;p

    Will
    Fraggle
  • »02.10.12 - 15:39
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Fraggle,
    Quote:

    I am going to buy Claus a Mac-mini ;p


    That sounds like the best course of action.
    Hope you can find a 1.5 GHz model.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »02.10.12 - 18:51
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