Bounty for getting MorphOS Team a PS3
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11007 from 2003/5/22
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    > SLOF firmware (i think it is not very compatible
    > with SmartFirmware).

    I guess it's at least as compatible as the OpenFirmware specification requires it to be. And presumably that may be enough for running MorphOS, which runs (or did run at least) on PPC Mac OpenFirmware, on PowerUP Firmware and on pre-CHRP (PReP style) PowerROM after all.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I think he talks about Powermacs.

    Do they have CPU modules? Not that it matters, as there are PowerMac "G5 running at 2.5Ghz with Radeon 9600 gfx card" :-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Is this alternative version not available or sold out?

    According to Max Tretene only the "alternative version" is available and for sale.
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    mobydick
    Posts: 179 from 2004/2/26
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > SLOF firmware (i think it is not very compatible
    > with SmartFirmware).

    I guess it's at least as compatible as the OpenFirmware specification requires it to be. And presumably that may be enough for running MorphOS, which runs (or did run at least) on PPC Mac OpenFirmware, on PowerUP Firmware and on pre-CHRP (PReP style) PowerROM after all.


    When MorphOS was released for Efika, too many users had problems with sound, HDD, USB and so on. Other words, thay had unusable systems with MorphOS 2.0. Note, Efika has firmware that similar to Pegasos' firmware. Also we know about MorphOS running on MacMini, but is it usable?
    The same problem with SLOF: may be it's easy to make quickport, but too mach time required to make stable, usable system.
    Pegasos II/G4@1GHz, 1 GB RAM, MorphOS 3.9
    Efika MX Smartbook, Ubuntu 12.04
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    jcmarcos
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    mobydick wrote:
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
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    SLOF firmware (i think it is not very compatible with SmartFirmware).

    I guess it's at least as compatible as the OpenFirmware specification requires it to be.

    When MorphOS was released for Efika, too many users had problems with sound, HDD, USB and so on. Other words, thay had unusable systems with MorphOS 2.0. Note, Efika has firmware that similar to Pegasos' firmware.


    Real operating systems written by real tough guys don't care a damn about the firmware: They just want memory and devices correctly mapped, and a way for a bootloader to start.

    If the firmware is able to do nice (weird) things like reading a filesystem, etc (imposing its own limitations), the operating system doesn't care. It has (or not) its own functions (drivers) to correctly use (or not) the hardware.

    Comment from one MorphOS team member: "Once you see the Quark loading prompt, SmartFirmware is long, long gone".
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 714 from 2003/2/24
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > eBay

    Link?



    Enjoy


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    > You can put any cpu module you want from one
    > and half gigahertz to almost three...

    iMac G5 does not use CPU modules. The G5 is directly soldered on mainboard. See:

    http://www.kodawarisan.com/imacg5/imacg531.jpg
    http://www.kodawarisan.com/imacg5_isight/DSC_2253.jpg
    http://61.194.6.236/img5/img5101.jpg


    You are right about cpu speed, iMac G5 seem to be slightly slower, but I guess I could live with MorphOS running on a 2Ghz G5 iMac with Radeon9600... Some of the iMacs have 2.1Ghz G5 with even better Radeons, see
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    Do they have CPU modules? Not that it matters, as there are PowerMac "G5 running at 2.5Ghz with Radeon 9600 gfx card" :-)


    You have 2.0 and 2.1Ghz ones, I guess some people can't use a computer with less than 2.5Ghz ;-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11007 from 2003/5/22
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    > Enjoy

    I can't see the "2.8Ghz G5" you told me about and I asked a link for there.

    > Some of the iMacs have 2.1Ghz G5 with even
    > better Radeons, see

    Yes, it's these. But I'm afraid full support for anything newer than Radeon 9800 may be far far away. Thus hardware with better GPUs than Radeon 9xxx won't do any good to us for the foreseeable future.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > You have 2.0 and 2.1Ghz ones

    ThePlayer and I talked about PowerMac G5, which indeed is available with 2.5 GHz (and faster) and Radeon 9600*, not about iMac G5.

    (* And even if this combination didn't exist, replacing the graphics board in a PowerMac wouldn't exactly be rocket science.)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1036 from 2003/3/24
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    For me it would be enough for the next 3-5 years to replace my aging Peg2 with a PowerMac G4 with 1,67 or more Ghz. With a Radeon 9100 or with some luck 95xx - 9800.
    And a Powerbook G4 Port would be awsome.
    Then i would sell my PB 12" right away and by a 15" one.
    PowerBook 17" SuperHD-Display MOD 1920x1200 :)
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > PowerMac G4 with 1,67 or more Ghz.

    Such thing doesn't exist (at least not without 3rd party upgrade). Fastest PowerMac G4 is 1.42 GHz. 1.67 GHz is the fastest G4 that Apple ever built into a Mac, so there's no "or more Ghz" (without 3rd party upgrade). These fastest G4 Macs are this PowerBook G4 and that PowerBook G4, both with Radeon 9700.

    > With a Radeon 9100 or with some luck 95xx - 9800.

    Yes, that would be no problem with a PowerMac, as the graphics board is easily exchangeable.

    > a Powerbook G4 Port would be awsome.

    With current GPU support this one is the fastest.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1036 from 2003/3/24
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    Hey Andreas as allways thanks for your useles comments.
    I know wich GFX Chip is built into the Powerbook.
    But i still hope that in the near future MOS will get Drivers for newer Radeon Chips.
    PowerBook 17" SuperHD-Display MOD 1920x1200 :)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    XzIt
    Posts: 250 from 2005/1/19
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    Only thing i would really like to see is a cpu module for peg2, that would be awsome 8-)
    As for the gfx, more support for raedon agp cards would make me happy.
    I have a X-1950 Pro HDTV card, that's agp but can't use it on my Peg2 :-P

    As for the ports, don't care atm, i have peg2 and mos 2.1 and thats all that matters.


    http://ati.amd.com/products/RadeonX1950/x1950pro.html

    X 8-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > as allways thanks for your useles comments.

    And I wish you much fun with running MorphOS on nonexistant "PowerMac G4 with 1,67 or more Ghz".

    > I know wich GFX Chip is built into the Powerbook.

    There is no "the Powerbook". There are different generations of PowerBook G4 with different GPUs.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1036 from 2003/3/24
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    Oh please forgive me your High... ehm i mean noobness how could i did such mistake without doing suicide after that. /sarcasm/ Of course you are allways right and your links are so usefull. /sarcasm/ I wonder what else are you doing in your life beside sitting the whole day in front of your Computer and searching links and being smart ass all day long.

    FYI i have a Powerbook 12" and i know all the diferences between this one and the 15" and 17" PB.
    And as long as you are not my father or someone else here on MZ.org or Pegasosforum.de just stop doing like you would be smarter then every one else.
    And to the "1,67 or more Ghz", did you ever read about Sonnet Encore ST 1.8 Ghz?
    PowerBook 17" SuperHD-Display MOD 1920x1200 :)
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11007 from 2003/5/22
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    > Of course you are allways right and your links
    > are so usefull. /sarcasm/

    Exactly that's what my links are for: to prove I'm right. What kind of proof do you accept, if not links to the creator of the hardware?

    > I wonder what else are you doing in your life [...]

    I'm afraid you'll have to keep wondering because that's none of your business.

    > FYI i have a Powerbook 12"

    You gave that information before already in this very thread.

    > and i know all the diferences between this one
    > and the 15" and 17" PB.

    Then you don't know the differences between your 12" PowerBook and the 12" PowerBooks of other PowerBook generations?

    > And as long as you are not my father or someone
    > else here on MZ.org or Pegasosforum.de just stop
    > doing like you would be smarter then every one else.

    But I *am* someone else than you or your father here on MZ.org and Pegasosforum.de. And btw, does your father know what you think about him? Bad boy you...

    > And to the "1,67 or more Ghz", did you ever read
    > about Sonnet Encore ST 1.8 Ghz?

    Did you ever read the postings you replied to? What's so hard to understand in "without 3rd party upgrade" (2 times) and "fastest G4 that *Apple* ever built into a Mac"?
  • »08.10.08 - 01:13
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