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    magnetic
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    Gl_Lka
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    GK_LKA wrote:


    Well, I wouldn't call it "pirating" since you are not able to buy it legally. :/




    That doesnt matter its still the author's property, so it is 'stealing' The fact that Holger Kruse just abandoned us afer making many thousand $$$ in the community and doesnt care about releasing it ever is a problem. So now wonder people "steal" it.

    @ Acill

    You are right we did need a stack for new users. This is an isssue I had with the mos team for not releasing the native PPC tcp/ip stack they have had now for almost going on 3 years!

    Secondarly, for the amount of the bounty - over $2k - I really expected something BETTER than what was out there not something Almost As Good As. Remember I wasnt a big fan of this bounty then as now..

    @Jupp3

    You are right as well. This is not a black and white debate obviously.

    magnetic

    PS: I'm still asking for someone to do a real world comprehensive speed test between MOS Net, Miami, Miami DX, and Genesis. I will add another controversial test result!

    :-?

    [ Edited by magnetic on 2006/6/17 14:05 ]
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    >PS: I'm still asking for someone to do a real world comprehensive speed test between MOS Net, Miami, Miami DX, and Genesis. I will add another controversial test result!

    whats the point ?

    There are several people here with fast mosnet transfers, and with a bit of tweaking
    im sure everyone can get the best of their network. It is a port of some linux stack
    so you have to accept to edit text files, but luckily you do this only once :)

    I've been using miamidx with morphos and got max 3-3.5 mb/s (download) and with the
    same network card, same cable, same switch and same source/destination i get
    a peak traffic of 9.2mb/s with latest mosnet, i've never been that high with any
    mosnet version so it should be fµcking fantastic with everyone now :)

    Upload i get 7.5-8 mb/s from morphos to pc but then i play with the buffers
    to get that, just using copy file.blah to mounted pc drive i get 3-4 mb/s

    This is with using smbfs.

    Using smbclient i get lower results, but you can see differences with tweaking there
    too, as:

    samba:bin> smbclient //pcshare/c -O so_rcvbuf=2048 so_sndbuf=2048
    or
    samba:bin> smbclient //pcshare/c -O so_rcvbuf=8192 so_sndbuf=8192

    with smbfs you can play with buffer option in shell

    copy pcshare:test.avi ram:
    copy pcshare:test.avi ram: buffer 10000
    copy pcshare:test.avi ram: buffer 100000

    should give you transfer differences

    also mosnet have send/recive buffer you can tweak, read the docs.
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    "Secondarly, for the amount of the bounty - over $2k - I really expected something BETTER than what was out there not something Almost As Good As. Remember I wasnt a big fan of this bounty then as now.."

    again with this mantra? (edited)

    Magnetic, the fact your not able to use an app properly, doesn't make it crap.



    [ Edited by Framiga on 2006/6/17 22:15 ]
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    First off dont say to me i'm not able to use an app properly. I dont run mosne, nor have I tried. But for $2k plus nobody should be editing text files as the bounty expressedly stated full GUI. I didnt say it was crap either so learn to read better please.


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    @magnetic

    How can you complain and whine so much about Mosnet when you havent even tried or tested
    if to see if its faster than emulated miami.

    While 1 or 2 users get crap transfer and others get near full 100mbit transfers i fail to
    see your reasoning for this 'lame 2k+ bounty and slower than emulated miami' talk.

    It works, im sure there are things to add/fix more, but for basic networking it
    works.
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    The only users i've seen that say its fast is you and framiga. The others say its slow. Its not that big a deal, im happy with the stacks I use. I will try it myself.

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    @magnetic
    >The only users i've seen that say its fast is you and framiga. The others say its slow.

    read thread again please...


    Framiga : No more hits, full speed on my 4Mb connection
    marcik : wget flies at 8MB/s. Good job
    Acill : Yes! It looks like its time to dump MiamiDX at last!
    Krashan : Works great here
    rms : Thx for this new version of MOSNet which works great here :)))
    eliot : But now erverything is great, thx alot!
    Elena : internet speed is pretty full now, and lan rates are much better than before (8M dld vs. 2M and 2M upld vs. 200K with smbfs)


    GK_LKA and ThePlayer reported 4-6MB/s

    hooligan reported similar speeds of miami

    Wishmaster reported MOSNet still is bless slow compared to MiamiDX here

    SoundSquare get 450kb/s on his internet connection but doesnt give any speed
    for lan transfers.

    Acill had problems getting mosnet to autostart, but that was solved
    and merko have problems with bittorrent.

    I only saw one say its slow and the rest reports fairly good transfers.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1914 from 2003/10/19
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    I've disabled MiamiDX from my startup folder, MOSNet is fast, and I got the autostart working now. I hate the GUI comming on and want it to go away, but its fine for now. I recomend you use it Magnetic, the tex files to set it up take no longer then 10 mins. Its simple and it works.
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    Acill

    Ok I installed MOSnet ;-)

    Seems fine and I dont get the DHCP renewel probs I got with this Router. :-)

    However, there seems to be a delay for about 5 secs when surfing new sites to connect to a socket, after that its fast.. weird. Did not get this before. Yahoo especially was slow.. any ideas??

    Weird thing though was I iconified the info panel and it dissapeared from ambient! :-?

    Also, what reliable edits to the config file can I make to increase speed please?

    tia

    magnetic


    [ Edited by magnetic on 2006/6/17 23:23 ]
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    Acill, you can disable gui in general.config, rtfm ;)
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    @Magnetic

    although you wouldn't deserve any help (from my personal POV) theres a way thas could help even "others" about the delay (ask Acill as well)

    goto "MosNET:db/resolve.conf" and check to have

    domain
    nameserver

    This is a Sonic reply here on MZ

    "About delays in DNS lookups: check your default domain name in resolv.conf. Or if you don't have one or don't know what is it and how to set it up, jusr remove it.
    The problem in fact is: when you try to resolve a name MOSNet first tries to append a default domain to it. This results in something like morph.zone.my.local.domain. If my.local.domain is not actually configured in your local network it takes time for the DNS to find out that it doesn't exist."

    or fill it with the domain and nameserver (DNS) of your ISP



    [ Edited by Framiga on 2006/6/18 12:56 ]
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    scf wrote:
    Acill, you can disable gui in general.config, rtfm ;)


    I am reading it, and I got it off. BTW you leave hostname= blank and it wont run, so I put in my hostname that gets added from DHCP.

    [ Edited by Acill on 2006/6/18 6:46 ]
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    It just tells what it does just by it's name
    OPENGUI=NO
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    1. If you want to set empty hostname, use HOSTNAME="". Config parser uses standard dos.library shell arguments parser so of course it fails with "hostname=". Or, better, just remove "hostname" parameter at all.
    2. About persisting problem with DNS delay - do you want to say that the documentation is still unclear, or you just haven't read it at all?
    3. It's BSD, not Linux stack.
    4. The GUI is next. I hope after some time you'll leave out editing text files.
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    @catohagen:

    Quote:

    >The only users i've seen that say its fast is you and framiga. The others say its slow.

    read thread again please...


    Framiga : No more hits, full speed on my 4Mb connection
    marcik : wget flies at 8MB/s. Good job
    Acill : Yes! It looks like its time to dump MiamiDX at last!
    Krashan : Works great here
    rms : Thx for this new version of MOSNet which works great here :)))
    eliot : But now erverything is great, thx alot!
    Elena : internet speed is pretty full now, and lan rates are much better than before (8M dld vs. 2M and 2M upld vs. 200K with smbfs)


    I think "great work" and "works great" means 4-6MB/s for the rest of the people you mentioned. Some of them uses only "slow" internet connections for testing. 4Mb != 10.5MB/s, and it's very far from it...

    @koan:

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    If I take a classic Ferrari I don't own without paying, is it OK?


    Stealing a car and copying an abandoned software isn't the same. If you steal a car, you cause harm for it's owner, but if you copy a program, you don't. It only causes loss of income for the author, but since he doesn't accepts registrations anymore I think you don't harm anybody when you copy it. And in my opinion MiamiDX a too good program for just dropping it so easy because this...

    Please don't misunderstand me: I don't support pirating, but I think pirating means an other thing. The other thing: I think MOSNet gets better and better, and it's really usable since the version 1.0. I only mentioned that there are now lacks of it and needs some more improvement in speed. (Remember: Full speed means 10.5MB/s at least with one native program. Linux could do it on my G3, so why MOSNet can't on a G4?)
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    Sonic wrote:
    1. If you want to set empty hostname, use HOSTNAME="". Config parser uses standard dos.library shell arguments parser so of course it fails with "hostname=". Or, better, just remove "hostname" parameter at all.
    2. About persisting problem with DNS delay - do you want to say that the documentation is still unclear, or you just haven't read it at all?
    3. It's BSD, not Linux stack.
    4. The GUI is next. I hope after some time you'll leave out editing text files.


    HOSNAME problem solved for me now, thanks. And he didnt read the docs, the are great now and easy to follow!
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    magnetic
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    Acill
    I read the docs but the synatx is weird. But, thanks to framiga and now you I removed the hostname and it works great now. I have to say I get more bandwidth than Miami DX so I'm now very happy with it. Also, I dont get the DHCP release probs so nice DHCP implementation! Salut Sonic!

    :-D

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    I'm facing on some crashes of MOSNet 1.2, during shoutcast server selection on ANR...

    (Peg-2/MOS1.4.5)

    has otherone got some identicals issues on ANR+MOSNet ?
    And now... next project!
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    Yomgui wrote:
    I'm facing on some crashes of MOSNet 1.2, during shoutcast server selection on ANR...



    Please send me a crashdump with syslog (if it contains some info about the crash like "system panic"). Unfortunately i can't reproduce it myself since i have no servers to select :-/
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    Somebody, please tell me how can I go to secure pages with MOSNet+IBrowse! Sonic told me, that I shall install AmiSSL. Downloaded this: http://www.heightanxiety.com/AmiSSL/AmiSSL-3.6-68k.lha

    I have installed it, but nothing happens. IBrowse still tells me this: "IBrowse was unable to open appropriate SSL module. Please make sure that your protocol stack supports SSL and that it is installed correctly. (ie. check that Miami's SSL module is installed)". SnoopDOS shows nothing.

    And I have still only one other problem with MOSNet: Apache doesn't work with it. Am I the only one on this planet who wants to use Apache with MOSnet? I can't believe!
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    You must have AmiSSL v2 installed first cause Ibrowse is not able to use the v3 libraries !

    And check that you have unchecked 'Use MiamiSSL' in IBrowse prefs security page.
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    Thanks a lot! Now IBrowse works fine. (Now YAM cries for AmiSSL v3... :( )
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    you can install both 2.2 and 3.6 in the same dir.

    Follow the doc in the 3.6 version.
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    Acill
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    GK_LKA wrote:
    Thanks a lot! Now IBrowse works fine. (Now YAM cries for AmiSSL v3... :( )


    You can also use the MOS native Aweb and it comes with AmiSSL installed and working. All you do is extract Aweb and start using it. No setup at all.
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    Hi,

    By IBrowse 2.3, an AmiTCP assign requester came up. It's fast ! I
    want to do the Samba connention to a Windows98 with MOSNet too.

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