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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    6. There are many PPD files available, PPD for postscript printers should work without problems,
    ppd files for samsung printers are included in the archive. PPD for foomatic drivers won't work.


    This is from the readme Zukow.
    Very discouraging.
    My PPD is setup for foomatic.
    You can find a copy of my PPD in the foo2zjs archive on aminet.
    You sure it will still work and run foo2zjs?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    In_Correct
    Posts: 245 from 2012/10/14
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    Brother appears to be a high quality printer. Will MorphOS start supporting all the Brother printers?
    :-) I Support Quark Microkernel. :-D
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    Brother printers tend to use the HP PCL language so should already work.

    If yours has PCL then just select a similar HP Laserjet printer and test it.


    [ Edited by bash64 20.02.2015 - 08:10 ]
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    sabbate
    Posts: 110 from 2013/7/7
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    should update the compatibility list

    hi all
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    Installed beta printer system.
    Copied foo2zjs to c:

    Under Printers I Selected PPD.
    Selected netprinter.device 0
    Saved.

    >copy april.ps printer:
    not copied

    Opened Pagestream 3.
    Setup postscript printer with PPD and device printer:
    Printed and nothing happened.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1513 from 2012/11/10
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    Device in Pagestream's device option needs to be "USBPAR:" not netprinter.device or anything else, as it uses the PRINTER device in Devs that you should have copied to the Devs folder - the one in the MOSSYS:Devs or MorphOS folder in the SYS: or SYSTEM: device.

    This Beta printing package by Zukow is one of the ONLY times that you should/need to copy a DEVS: file into the MOSSYS: folders as in the main this folder has to be left unmodified or there is always a likelihood of some major disaster taking place in your MorphOS booting process. You do need to copy the other relevant files, such as the printer-handler in the Zukow archive, and others, into the MOSSYS: folders - contrary to normal protocol - as these files need to be found there for them to work as intended. Putting them in the standard System: folder will not get the Beta Printing system of Zukow working otherwise.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    I am not using usb. This is a network printer. The usb port on the printer is broken.
    I pointed pagestream to printer:
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  • MorphOS Developer
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    Posts: 645 from 2005/2/9
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    Ok, i analyzed this port and it seems that it is foomatic based filter so to print using my printing system it needs also foomatic-rip binary somewhere in the path. The foomatic port wasn't done so it doesn't work. As i said earlier i;ll return to printig system after morphos 3.8 release so i probably port foomatic also.

    [ Edited by zukow 22.02.2015 - 17:25 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    Well, we were closer at least.
    Any idea on the 3.8 release date?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    Can ghostscript 8.70 for MOS handle the bitcmyk device?

    The instructions I am finding is to convert my .ps file into either bitcmyk or pksmraw and pipe it to foo2zjs which will then save is it as a zenographics color file.

    The color file would need to be copied to the printer.
    Using the old TurboPrint system which device will leave the file unchanged?
    I don't want it modified in any way. Just a raw copy, like this:

    >copy april.zc PRT:
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  • MorphOS Developer
    zukow
    Posts: 645 from 2005/2/9
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    i have some time for coding now so i uploaded small update:
    http://brain.umcs.lublin.pl/~rzookol/download/printers.lha

    most useful for postscript printers users
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Thanks Zukow!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 570 from 2007/7/29
    It's a bit old but I have some questions to it:

    "MorphOS already comes with all stuff needed to create/read PDF files "

    which stuff is this to create PDF files?

    "But since NetStack/drivers do not support MultiCast, this is currently impossible anyway. MultiCast requires more work to implement, so it won´t be there soonish."

    Is this still the case or has it changed since https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=32&topic_id=9037&post_id=98641&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Stevo
    Posts: 895 from 2004/1/24
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    Quote:

    zukow wrote:
    Hi,

    I've updated Ghostscript to work with printing system in MorphOS 3.10

    http://aminet.net/gfx/conv/GhostScript_8.70.lha



    Thank you zukow.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1513 from 2012/11/10
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    Thanks Zukow for updating Ghostscript v8.70 though I rarley use it now, seeing as I have managed to work out/fix myself the "Printers" system to work with my HP 2500 Colour LaserJet PostScript printer using the USBPAR: device that you implemented in the Beta "Printers" system, but forgot to add into the v3.10 release of "Printers".

    Can I take it that:

    1. The USBPAR: or an improved USB printing device will be offered with v3.11+?
    2. The Compatible Printers list for MorphOS will be updated with my printer, so other users can know it is compatible?
    3. Other printers that users use with MorphOS of whatever make/model will also be updated onto the compatibility list for all to benefit from. ;-)

    As the printers list is basically the oldest, most out of date, hardware related information that is in the MorphOS library and offered as being compatible. Though where you would acquire such old printers from, outside of a museum, is baffling. :-?
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:

    As the printers list is basically the oldest, most out of date, hardware related information that is in the MorphOS library and offered as being compatible. Though where you would acquire such old printers from, outside of a museum, is baffling. :-?

    The MorphOS Library is a community-managed resource. Please feel free to add uptodate information regarding new printers that are known to work with MorphOS.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1513 from 2012/11/10
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    Don't I need to be authorised to be able to do that initially? :-?
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  • ASiegel
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    The MorphOS Library main page explains what to do in case you need a new account.
  • »19.06.18 - 19:47
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  • MorphOS Developer
    zukow
    Posts: 645 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    Thanks Zukow for updating Ghostscript v8.70 though I rarley use it now, seeing as I have managed to work out/fix myself the "Printers" system to work with my HP 2500 Colour LaserJet PostScript printer using the USBPAR: device that you implemented in the Beta "Printers" system, but forgot to add into the v3.10 release of "Printers".

    Can I take it that:

    1. The USBPAR: or an improved USB printing device will be offered with v3.11+?
    2. The Compatible Printers list for MorphOS will be updated with my printer, so other users can know it is compatible?
    3. Other printers that users use with MorphOS of whatever make/model will also be updated onto the compatibility list for all to benefit from. ;-)

    As the printers list is basically the oldest, most out of date, hardware related information that is in the MorphOS library and offered as being compatible. Though where you would acquire such old printers from, outside of a museum, is baffling. :-?


    Hi,

    So ...

    1) Yes, USBPAR: is added to 3.11, i'll probably add some Generic Postscript driver which should work with most postscript printers. More changes will come in 3.12.
    2) Compatibility list is based on Turboprint list
    3) Virtually all Postscript printers works with MorphOS, they just need proper PPD files. We can make some list of working models with URLs to correct PPD file. If this list would be more that 20 items i could also add some autoconfiguration mode with downloading ppd from network.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1513 from 2012/11/10
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    Quote:

    zukow wrote: So ...

    1) Yes, USBPAR: is added to 3.11, i'll probably add some Generic Postscript driver which should work with most PostScript printers. More changes will come in 3.12.

    So, when is v3.12 likely to be following on the heels of v3.11, and when is v3.11 likely to be released anyway?
    Quote:

    zukow wrote: 2) Compatibility list is based on Turboprint list

    I gathered as much, because most, if not all, the printers on that list haven't been sold/available in stores for about 10 years, maybe even more, which is when the Classic Amiga TurboPrint releases stopped. So the list needs to be updated urgently, which is why I've made the remark.
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    ASiegel wrote: The MorphOS Library is a community-managed resource. Please feel free to add uptodate information regarding new printers that are known to work with MorphOS.

    How many different printers do you think I own? :-?

    This forum or some other way of reporting hardware that works with current, or even later versions of MorphOS should be made available for users to tell you that, this or that printer, or whatever piece of hardware, be that a USB audio device or Webcam, or whatever piece of hardware it is, has, in the future, been found to work stably, without problems, or to let you know there are problems, so you can fix them for other MorphOS users to gain the benefit.

    It also needs to be made simple to use/make such a report or users probably won't bother to tell you, and the list won't get updated, which is the situation we're in now.

    I can add the one I own to the library, once I have gone through the process of requesting authority to be able to update the community part of the library, as you have requested me to do, though I feel sure you could add the information yourself far more simply than going to the trouble of writing your remark asking me to do it, as you're already authorised. :-(

    But hey! I'll do it for everyone else ......... that's the spirit. :-) :bloons:

    [EDIT] I have now made that request to ... library [at] morphos-user.com ..... waiting to hear back now. :-)

    Though for me, it's a lot of trouble to have to do it, when it should already have been updated by those on the Development Team who are aware that I have already said I own such a printer that works with MorphOS, to keep the information about printer compatibility up-to-date, but seeing as it's about 10 years out of date, maybe that's too much to ask .... but it also needs to be added to the compatibility list on the MorphOS HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY page - Any idea how I would manage to do that, to save you writing a request for me to join the Development Team so I could save you or someone else doing what they need to do, that I won't, in any case, be allowed to do? :-?

    The main MorphOS website should be as up-to-date as possible, but printer information is a long way out of date.
    Quote:

    zukow wrote: 3) Virtually all Postscript printers work with MorphOS, they just need proper PPD files. We can make some list of working models with URLs to correct PPD file. If this list would be more that 20 items i could also add some autoconfiguration mode with downloading ppd from network.

    That would be a GREAT IDEA. I have my HP 2500 CLJ PostScript printer working, but other users may need some easier route to get their printer working with MorphOS, and I'm sure any way you can automate it all will be a great addition to making the installation of a printer much easier in MorphOS. 8-D

    [ Edited by NewSense 20.06.2018 - 01:17 ]
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  • jPV
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    Posts: 2096 from 2003/2/24
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    Maybe we should create a new page to the MorphOS Library for user reported compatibility list of all kinds of devices, and maybe we should decide the name and structure together? And then create a new thread here where to report, and then anyone who has account to the library can keep it up to date. MorphOS team can then pick content from it if wanted.

    What topic should we give to the page? This is the most important question now, because the topic also becomes its URL and that can't be changed that easily later.

    "Hardware Compatibility Reported by Users", "User Reported Hardware Compatibility", or something like that? Please suggest something suitable and proper English :)


    Then in which format it should be? Couple examples I have in mind now:

    1)

    == Printers ==
    * HP blabla (Working)
    * Lexmark blabla (Working)
    * Samsung blabla (Not working)

    == USB Audio Devices ==
    * Bla bla (Working)
    * Ble ble (Working partially: output works, input doesn't)
    * Blä blä (Not working)


    2)

    == Printers ==
    === Working ===
    * HP blabla
    * Lexmark blabla
    === Not Working ===
    * Samsung blabla


    == USB Audio Devices ==
    === Working ===
    * Bla bla
    === Partially Working ==
    * Ble ble (output works, input doesn't)
    === Not Working ==
    * Blä blä


    Something like these?

    Edit: and maybe there should be mentions about if printer works through TurboPrint or PS... and of course all entries should have a mention on which version of MorphOS it was tested on, because they might work on later ones but the original reporter (or hw) isn't around to test again...

    [ Edited by jPV 20.06.2018 - 10:16 ]
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  • ASiegel
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    @ jPV

    Just "Hardware Compatibility" is fine. Additional information regarding the sources of compatibility reports can be included on the page itself. Going forward, I would not rule out having sections with "official" and "user provided" lists either so it is good to stay flexible regarding the page title and URL.


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    You should have received an email containing a temporary password. You might have to check your spam folder.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1513 from 2012/11/10
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    Quote:

    ASiegel wrote: @ NewSense

    You should have received an email containing a temporary password. You might have to check your spam folder.

    Yes I have received that authorisation now, many thanks, and have updated my password for the site, but I'll probably liaise with jPV now on this matter as he has an interest in moving this topic forward as well, which is very thoughtful of him to show such an interest in the Hardware Compatibility issues. 8-)

    I agree keeping the topic simple, with sub-options for additional material on the subject is the way to go, for the moment at least. :-)
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