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    Intuition wrote:
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    Jim wrote:
    Serbia/Ukraine and Kosovo/Crimea?

    A better parallel?

    I don't see that as at all parallel.
    Although I would prefer that we stay out of other country's politics entirely.

    As Red echoed, good luck.


    US army invades Serbia to "protect" ethnic Albanians in Kosovo who then declare independence from Serbia.

    Russian army "invades" Ukraine to "protect" ethnic Russians in Crimea who then declare independence from Ukraine.

    There is no difference.


    I see many differences, like that in the post Yugoslavia breakdown there was a series of real civil wars with horrendous and extremely brutal slaughter of civilians and systematic ethnic cleansing, and UN (as in United Nations, not US) did some pathetic tries to intervene. There was certainly no US invation, it was a UN intervention (in which many nations participated under UN flag), and if anything can be said about that, it's probably that it was way too little, way too late.

    In Ukraine, there was no civil war, no butchering of civilians, no ethnic cleansing, no war crimes, no nothing! Nothing at all!

    The Russian population in Ukraine has in no way been threatened by anyone, they have simply lived their lives like every day, like "OK, today is Monday, time to go to work, wonder what we shall have for dinner tonight", then "OK, today it's Tuesday, time to go to work, wonder what we shall have for dinner tonight", and then "OK, today it's Wednesday, time to go to work, wonder what we shall have for dinner tonight, oh, and there certainly seems to be a lot of anonymized Russian soldiers in the streets today".

    This annexing of Ukrainian territory is illegal by any means and measures, it's a blatant crime, it's totally uncalled for, it's disgusting, and it's a behavior that could maybe have been passed 200 years ago, but certainly not today.

    Until they have fully withdrawn, Russia should, and probably will, suffer the effects of economic, political and diplomatic isolation, hopefully a complete freeze-out from the rest of the world community with travel and trade restrictions.

    This whole thing is just so darn sad and strange, and almost as bizarre as North Korea in their logic and dealings with the rest of the world community. I mean, here Russia has spent enormous amounts of money to get into the world spotlights, like by hosting the Eurovision Song Contest, the Olympic Games, and other big sports events, etc, to show off as a nation that isn't that old, grey, backwards Soviet state anymore, but something modern, something new, with culture, technology and 21st century values and spirit. Only to completely raze it all in a heartbeat by adopting dark-ages laws against homosexuals and illegally annexing neighbor countries for made-up reasons that the entire world (that isn't fed by the Russian state-controlled un-free media's propaganda, lying about "threats", "protection", etc) understands is pure lies and bullshit. And in a heart-beat all those years of efforts and enormous amounts of money invested into putting up a positive appearance to the world is completely eradicated, and Russia comes through as a savage bastard state with no reason, no logic, and a complete disrespect for others.

    Maybe some day Russia will become a true democracy, with proper rule of law, with real elections, with free media, and a 21st century view of human beings and foreign affairs. But evidently, it still has a long way to go.
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