In preparation for the next release of the PortablE programming language, I'm trying to ensure it works well on MorphOS. A couple of people have previously reported problems with sound or music not working... but they work for me!

So I need as many people as possible to run the following test programs, and let me know if they have any problems:
http://cshandley.co.uk/temp/PE_MOS_tests.lha

Please report what version of MorphOS you use, and on which machine. (Please also report if they DO work for you, as that will help tell me what is NOT causing a problem.)

I suggest running the programs in this order:
1. "Clock" (simple graphics + timer test)
2. "SimpleModPlayer" (simple music + GUI test, open the MOD in the program folder)
3. "StarsDemo" (should be smooth & have music playing)
4. "ShootEmUp/window" (use arrow keys+space, should have music & sounds)
5. "ShootEmUp/vsynced" (as above)
6. "ShadowOfTheBlitz_Scroller" (should have music, but fast smooth graphics require a card with 3D support.)

If you get no music (or programs refuse to even start), then please make sure you have ptplay.library installed in your Sys:Libs folder. Both required files are included in the "you might need to install these" folder!

Thanks in advance

1 to 4 run without problems

5 and 6 seem to run (music plays and I can quit) but I can't see any GFX (but thats really a problem with my monitor & GFX-card setup not handling anything below full-HD atm).

HW: PowerMac G5@2.3GHz, Radeon 9650 running MorphOS_3.6beta.

2nd test:
1-5 o.k
6 run but has GFX-glitches (the upper 3rd of screen seem to be blitted out of sync)

HW: iBook 1.33GHz Radeon_9550 MorphOS_3.6beta.

[ Edited by Kronos 02.03.2014 - 12:46 ]

I tested them also:

Clock: OK
Shadow of the blitz: OK
Shoot'em up: OK, except there is no gun sound in windowed mode.
Mod player: OK
Stars: OK

My macine is a PowerBook 5,8 (1.64 GHz, 1440x960)

> Please report what version of MorphOS you use, and on which machine.

MorphOS 3.5 on Mac mini G4 1.5 GHz here.

> 1. "Clock" (simple graphics + timer test)

Okay.

> 2. "SimpleModPlayer" (simple music + GUI test, open the MOD in the program folder)

Okay.

> 3. "StarsDemo" (should be smooth & have music playing)

Okay.

> 4. "ShootEmUp/window" (use arrow keys+space, should have music & sounds)

No sound effects.

> 5. "ShootEmUp/vsynced" (as above)

Music sounds like channels are missing.

> 6. "ShadowOfTheBlitz_Scroller" (should have music, but fast smooth graphics require
> a card with 3D support.)

Music sounds like channels are missing, and the tree tops are flickering and chopped off in a "Z" pattern.

1. "Clock" (simple graphics + timer test)
ok

2. "SimpleModPlayer" (simple music + GUI test, open the MOD in the program folder)
ok

3. "StarsDemo" (should be smooth & have music playing
ok

4. "ShootEmUp/window" (use arrow keys+space, should have music & sounds)
Music ok, no sound

5. "ShootEmUp/vsynced" (as above)
ok

6. "ShadowOfTheBlitz_Scroller" (should have music, but fast smooth graphics require a card with
ok

MorphOS 3.5.1
Power Mac MDD 1,25 MHz
Radeon 9000 128 Mb

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Thanks for the test. Which version of MorphOS runs on that?

Also, any idea what graphics chip that has? We can get some idea if you go to Prefs/Preferences > Screens, and check what Display Mode it says.

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Any idea what graphics chip that has? We can get some idea if you go to Prefs/Preferences > Screens, and check what Display Mode it says.

PegasosII, Radeon 9200 RV280, MOS3.5:
5. In both modes no gun-sound
All others running ok.

EFIKA, Radeon 9200SE, MOS3.5:
Only Clock is running. 3,,5,6 shows only a empty screen and needs reboot, 2,4 does nothing....but multitasking is on - can switch back to Ambient-Screen...
(ptplay.library is installed)

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Or even better Utilities/GraphicBoards
And it would tell you that the Mac mini 1.5 GHz has a Radeon 9200, the Device being RV280, with 64MB of VRAM, 189MHz memory clock and 250MHz GPU clock.

Kind regards,
Andrea

>> My macine is a PowerBook 5,8 (1.64 GHz, 1440x960)

> any idea what graphics chip that has?

Radeon 9700M (RV360).

M<orphOS 3.4; Radeon 9700 (RV350)

[ Edited by dekanyz 03.03.2014 - 20:21 ]

>>> My macine is a PowerBook 5,8 (1.64 GHz, 1440x960)

>> any idea what graphics chip that has?

> Radeon 9700 (RV350)

Are you sure it's not an RV360?

> Are you sure it's not an RV360?

Yes, I am!
The Graphics Board utility says thar.

>>> Radeon 9700 (RV350)

>> Are you sure it's not an RV360?

> Yes, I am! The Graphics Board utility says thar.

I was going by that table:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Mobility_Radeon_Series

But having a closer look seems to indicate that the mapping between the Mobility Radeon 9500, 9550, 9600 (Pro) and 9700 model designations, the M10, M11 and M12 model numbers and the RV350 and RV360 code names is not exactly one-to-one ...or maybe the information in the table are not correct ;-)

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I wouldn't rely too strongly on Wikipedia being 100% correct about anything (or even 50% correct on controversial topics that people feel strongly about).

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All as above (4 has music, but no SFX just to clarify)
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Nothing obvious missing (synth, percussion all there), but the synth sound doesn't seem quite as rich in vsynced mode. Could be Andreas power of suggestion though.
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No graphical or audio problems here. (Compared to playing the mod using your provided player)

Hardware:
Powerbook 5,6 (128MB VRam variant) / MorphOS 3.5

Graphics hardware:

ShowCGXConfig reports:
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sys:utilities/graphicboards reports this as, this as RV350/M10 [Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo] (0x4e50).

Best regards



Rich

[ Edited by boot_wb 04.03.2014 - 14:31 ]

@all
Thanks to everyone who ran these tests, but I could still do with tests from people with MorphOS 3.3 & below (even MOS 2.x if possible)! AND ALSO from Power Mac & Efika machines.

Summary of above test results so far:
Test 4 (SEU win) had missing sound effects on MOS 3.4 with PowerBook G4+Radeon 9700 (dekanyz), MOS 3.5 with Mac Mini G4+Radeon 9200 (Andreas_W), MOS 3.5.1 with Power Mac G4+Radeon 9000 (eliot) & MOS 3.5 with PowerBook G4+Radeon 9600M Pro (boot_wb).

Test 5 (SEU vsync) had music problems on MOS 3.5 with Mac Mini G4+Radeon 9200 (Andreas_W), missing sound effects on MOS 3.5 with Pegasos2+Radeon 9200 (Amigaharry2).

Test 6 (SOTB) had graphics sync glitches on MOS 3.6beta with iBook G4+Radeon 9550 (Kronos) & MOS 3.5 with Mac Mini G4+Radeon 9200 (Andreas_W).

Except for those above cases, these tests worked on:
MOS 3.4 with PowerBook G4+Radeon 9700 (dekanyz)
MOS 3.5 with Mac Mini G4+Radeon 9200 (Andreas_W)
MOS 3.5 with Pegasos2+Radeon 9200 (Amigaharry2)
MOS 3.5 with PowerBook G4+Radeon 9600M Pro (boot_wb)
MOS 3.5.1 with Power Mac G4+Radeon 9000 (eliot)
MOS 3.6beta with iBook G4+Radeon 9550 (Kronos)

Nothing working except Test 1 (clock):
MOS 3.3 with Pegasos2 G3+Radeon 9200 (r-tea)
MOS 3.5 with Efika+Radeon 9200SE (Amigaharry2)

I don't see this problem on my Efika, but it runs MOS 2.x (need to try updating later).

Tentative conclusions:
I'd still like test results for MorphOS 3.3 & earlier (and even MOS 2.x), as well as Power Mac & Efika machines.

Hard to draw anything definitive, but all tests were done with MorphOS 3.4+, and I am only using MOS 3.2, so my next step should be to update to MOS 3.5. The wide range of machines & graphics cards suggest they are irrelevant (thankfully). OTOH, eliot has the machine closest to mine (Power Mac albiet with MOS 3.5) and sees almost no problems, so maybe I won't see any problems either...

Andreas_W's music problem seems to be isolated (and possibly subjective), so I'll ignore it for the moment...

SOTB only seems to have graphics glitches for a couple of people. Really need more 'bad' test results before I can guess why this might be so.

EDIT: Included r-tea's (and Amigaharry2's Efika) results from below.

Ooops, please delete!

My config:
Pegasos II / G3
ATI Radeon 9200 PRO / RV 280
Driver Version 52.18 (PPC mode)
MorphOS 3.3 (16.09.2013)
ptplay.libary installed

Results are very similar to Amigaharry2 with EFIKA:

1. "Clock" (simple graphics + timer test)
ok

2. "SimpleModPlayer" (simple music + GUI test, open the MOD in the program folder)
nothing appears

3. "StarsDemo" (should be smooth & have music playing)
blank screen of Ambient's screen mode. "PE" on screen titlebar

4. "ShootEmUp/window" (use arrow keys+space, should have music & sounds)
nothing appears

5. "ShootEmUp/vsynced" (as above)
blank screen low res

6. "ShadowOfTheBlitz_Scroller" (should have music, but fast smooth graphics require a card with 3D support.)
blank screen low res

Regarding SimpleModPlayer I will send PM with a grab of Snoopium window and a part of system log with SMP activity.

[ Edited by r-tea 05.03.2014 - 16:21 ]

> [...] MOS 3.5 with Mac Mini G4+Radeon 9200 (Andreas_W), MOS 3.5.1 with Power Mac
> G4+Radeon 9000 (eliot) & MOS 3.5 with PowerBook G4+Radeon 9600M Pro (boot_wb)

Just to clarify, I run MorphOS 3.5.1 but thought that specifying the revision would be sufficient.

@r-tea
Thanks for your Efika test. Looks like I will need to update my Efika to MorphOS 3.x, and see why it isn't working. (I'll do that after resolving issues on other machines, since those should affect the Efika too.)

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Just a thought: With the Efika it's fairly common to disable Enhanced Display/double/triple-buffering to reduce Ram usage. Would that have an effect on the results?

[ Edited by boot_wb 05.03.2014 - 13:38 ]

@ ChrisH

I actually use Pegasos2 with MorphOS 3.3.
Sorry for my lame English to mislead you.
Amigaharry2 wrote he made tests with Efika. Our results are very close.

Disableing double/triple buffering or enhanched display does'nt make any difference on EFIKA
For e.g. Stardemo opens a gray screen and then task stops(!) completely and does nothing - cpu idles at 2%! There are 2 tasks in background:
1. BackgroundCLI "Stardemo" and
2. "cMusic Musicserver". It seems that Musicserver does not realy open AHI-device, because I can use it otherwise at same time (which is normaly not possible if a foreign task occupies AHI-device).....

> With the Efika it's fairly common to disable Enhanced Display/double/triple-buffering
> to reduce Ram usage.

I think that's not necessary anymore since MorphOS 2.5:

"Devs/Monitors/Radeon
[...]
Added support for low memory footprint, automatically enabled if available video memory is larger than available system memory or overruled by tooltype LOWMEMORYPROFILE=(YES|NO). Reduces system memory usage, enabled on EFIKA by default."
http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes/2.5