Strange behaviour of MorphOs on Mac Mini...
  • Caterpillar
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    D4Ni3L3
    Posts: 26 from 2013/12/12
    From: Mailand - Italien
    Hello to all of you,

    I see a strange, weird, behaviour of Morph Os on my Mac Mini G4.
    I just have an installation of MorphOs without any license for now because I want to realize if I have some issue with my hardware or it is just a matter of software.All this because if my hardware is not good at all I think it is not worth to buy a licence hardware specific for a faulty hardware.
    Well let me explain to you what does it happen.

    After booting Morphos and especially when I open the OWB I see the system slowing down after some minutes ( 1 or 2 ) and see some little weird movement of the screen , some image flickering and the OS become slow and hard in executing his tasks. If I boot again all this can happen or not. But I see it often since I am experiencing MorphOS.

    Do you think it is any effect of the missing licence or any sort of hardware issue?

    Please let me know what do you think about it!





    [ Edited by D4Ni3L3 25.12.2013 - 23:58 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
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    Unregistrated MOS slows down in about 30 minutes ..(and shows that with a requester)!

    Did you do your test with MOS3.4? Since 3.4 there is made an internal timer improvement on (all) MAC-computers (see history-file on 3.4-iso) - maybe that's the reason for slowing down so soon....

    I suppose you have a Mini with 32MB VRam. Maybe you running out of VRAM. Try to use only 16bit-screens and reduce resulution. For OWB screen you may try to disable "Enhanched Display" - this saves also VRAM (notice: but you need enhanced display for Ambient-Screen - otherwise you have no transparent docks - so you have to define a new screen in screen-prefs for OWB).
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Disabling enhanced display leads to an ambient crash on my powerbook.
    I would prefer to set "Display Engine" to only double buffered screens and disable the background
    picture in Ambient as well. That way my machine uses around 22-25Mb Graphic memory.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1282 from 2010/1/6
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    Can't see any problems on my PB - only lack of trancparency for docks ........
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  • Caterpillar
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    D4Ni3L3
    Posts: 26 from 2013/12/12
    From: Mailand - Italien
    Amigaharry2,
    Quote:

    I suppose you have a Mini with 32MB VRam. Maybe you running out of VRAM. Try to use only 16bit-screens and reduce resulution. For OWB screen you may try to disable "Enhanched Display" - this saves also VRAM



    Thank you I finally can see a stable system of unregistered MorphOS! I used only 16bit-screens and reduced the resulution. I disabled too "Enhanched Display" in OWB.

    What would it happen if I had a 1.5 GHZ Mac Mini?

    I mean a Sept 2005 version?

    Would have I got a 60MB of VRam?

    Could I have used full resolution without any of the issues I experimented till yesterday?





    [ Edited by D4Ni3L3 26.12.2013 - 21:24 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > What would it happen if I had a 1.5 GHZ Mac Mini? I mean a Sept 2005 version?
    > Would have I got a 60MB of VRam?

    Yes, the 1.5 GHz version has 64 MiB of VRAM.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
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    That's exactly what I've written to D4Ni3L3 in my first post.......
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 327 from 2012/6/13
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    @D4Ni3L3,

    I{m having exactly the same issue, but I never had that issue before with Morphos 3.3 or previous versions.

    How did or from where you select 16 bit screens and reduce resolution?

    Also, from where do you disable Enhanced Display in OWB?

    In my case Grunch causes the same problems as OWB.

    This all only happens with Chrysalis Pack 3.4


    Quote:

    D4Ni3L3 wrote:
    Amigaharry2,
    Quote:

    I suppose you have a Mini with 32MB VRam. Maybe you running out of VRAM. Try to use only 16bit-screens and reduce resulution. For OWB screen you may try to disable "Enhanched Display" - this saves also VRAM



    Thank you I finally can see a stable system of unregistered MorphOS! I used only 16bit-screens and reduced the resulution. I disabled too "Enhanched Display" in OWB.

    What would it happen if I had a 1.5 GHZ Mac Mini?

    I mean a Sept 2005 version?

    Would have I got a 60MB of VRam?

    Could I have used full resolution without any of the issues I experimented till yesterday?




    MacMini G4 1.5GHz with MorphOS 3.9 FPGA MiST w/AmigaOS 3.9 (PFS3), FPGA Replay w/AmigaOS3.9, Amiga 1200 SCSI CD-RW, X-SURF 100 w/Rapidroad USB, External FDD with Chinon and Gotek units and Acer Aspire One ICAROS
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > How did or from where you select 16 bit screens and reduce resolution?
    > Also, from where do you disable Enhanced Display in OWB?

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9728&forum=3&start=1
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  • Caterpillar
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    D4Ni3L3
    Posts: 26 from 2013/12/12
    From: Mailand - Italien
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > How did or from where you select 16 bit screens and reduce resolution?
    > Also, from where do you disable Enhanced Display in OWB?

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9728&forum=3&start=1


    I reduced the screen resolution to 16 bit just going ito preferences and disabled the enhanced display from the last menu in the OWB. Try it ... It is not hard to find these options.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
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    >>> How did or from where you select 16 bit screens and reduce resolution?
    >>> Also, from where do you disable Enhanced Display in OWB?

    >> https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9728&forum=3&start=1

    > I reduced the screen resolution to 16 bit

    16 bit refers to the colour depth. The screen resolution is the vertical and horizontal pixel count.

    > Try it ... It is not hard to find these options.

    *I* know how to do it :-)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:

    D4Ni3L3 schrieb:

    What would it happen if I had a 1.5 GHZ Mac Mini?

    I mean a Sept 2005 version?

    Would have I got a 60MB of VRam?

    Could I have used full resolution without any of the issues I experimented till yesterday?




    The September 2005 is the silent upgrade Mac mini that has 64 MiB VRAM. And with 64MiB VRAM it is prett yfin eto use enhanced display in 1920x1080 24 bit depth. You should have an eye on VRAM though on very high resolutions (best via the inbuild title bar panel for VRAM).

    Better go for the 1.5 GHz(64 MiB VRAM version. A little oversimplified I may say, that I heard quite some ppl complaining about a mac mini who owned a 32 MiB VRAM version while I literally never heard a 64 MiB VRAM Mac mini user complaining (including myself).
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