Veeery early impressions from a new user
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    runequester
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/11
    In no particular order of import:

    G4 powermacs are some of the most convenient cases to open and work with, Ive seen. (I know thats not MOS specific but hey)

    MOS is totally amiga. It's hard to explain but it feels like an amiga. It's almost throwing me off, but my A1200 has been set up with SCALOS for a long time, so maybe that's why.

    Boot up is quick, reboot is quick, shutdown is basically instant.

    OWB works very well.

    Grunch is pretty rad. Hope it gains in popularity.

    As an amiga user, this could easily be an every day system for everything you do (thats what I will do).

    From a non amiga user, Im not so sure. It'd require a lot more compromising and workarounds than youd find elsewhere. Thats not an inherent failure, as much as just the reality of the situation.

    Speed is really good even though the system is "only" 1.2 ghz (technically a dual processor but MOS doesn't care about that). Things open quick and snappy.


    Overall, I am very impressed. I was very concerned about the high cost of entry, coming from the x86 linux world, but I can't say I've regretted it, and my keyfile was processed in a matter of hours.

    More to follow. I may end up doing a blog or something to discuss ongoing experiences.
    Amiga 1200 and G4 MDD MOS as my main computers.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    stefkos
    Posts: 96 from 2004/2/4
    It's nice to read that.
    I'm using this system beacouse i really like it, beacouse it's fast, responsive...
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    osco
    Posts: 680 from 2009/10/21
    From: Boston, USA
    Strange your post rings from aq a time not too long ago. :-D
    The veterans will shake their head and say here is is anoher loony.
    Morphos has done all that i wished for and the limit really is with me and not the system. :-D
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    Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 1G, 250G Drive, Apple Cinema Display, MorphOS 3.1 registered, MacOS 10 PowerBook (5,8) 1.67Hz, 2G, 80G Drive,........Waiting
    PowerBook (5,8) 1.67Hz, 2G, 40G MorphOS 3.1 unregisterd
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    runequester,
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    Overall, I am very impressed. I was very concerned about the high cost of entry, coming from the x86 linux world, but I can't say I've regretted it, and my keyfile was processed in a matter of hours.


    I guess the cost of a G4 Mac computer at $20 to $40 (if you can't find one for free), plus the cost of the registration key, can be considered "high cost" for some people. Specially when compared to the cost of a "throw away" x86 computer and a free OS, for a total investment of "Zero".

    It is surprising to see anyone complain about the cost of the investment needed to get into running a registered MorphOS computer, when the only other alternative that is really similar to MorphOS, only runs on hardware that will cost you well over $500 used, and very close to, or over $1,000, for new hardware, and over $3,000 for "top of the line" new hardware.

    AROS is gaining ground fast, but still has a long way to go before it can be compared with MorphOS (at least in my opinion, which I must admit is limited).

    [ Edited by amigadave 13.07.2012 - 20:40 ]
    MorphOS - The best Next Gen Amiga choice.
  • »13.07.12 - 23:29
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    runequester
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/11
    This might be regional but most half-decent macs are a lot more around here. 50 dollars will get you a 400 mhz sawtooth and thats about it. Online can be better but then you have to factor in shipping.

    Cost of OS is high. 90-100 dollars for one license, compared to free for unlimited licenses.

    These arent prohibitive costs obviously, but they are costs nevertheless.
    Of course, they pale compared to the cost of kitting out a classic amiga system :)


    As far as OS4, I dont really know. Never used it. My computing experience is classic amiga, a bit of windows and a lot of linux, so that's my point of comparison.
    Amiga 1200 and G4 MDD MOS as my main computers.
  • »13.07.12 - 23:58
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  • Just looking around
    CaptainHedrock
    Posts: 1 from 2012/7/14
    I believe Runequester lives in Portland, Oregon. If this is the case, it is not true that G4 Macs are expensive in this region. I live in Seattle and I bought a nice Quicksilver 2002 Power Mac for $30 at Re-PC in Seattle. They receive them as e-waste from people who are throwing them away. Yes, I realize Seattle is not really local to Portland, as it is a 3+ hour drive. However from time to time people sell newer G4 Macs on Craigslist in the $20-$50 range, in Oregon and Washington. I looked for a while so I know this.
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  • jPV
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    jPV
    Posts: 2096 from 2003/2/24
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    runequester,
    Quote:

    MOS is totally amiga. It's hard to explain but it feels like an amiga. It's almost throwing me off, but my A1200 has been set up with SCALOS for a long time, so maybe that's why.


    Yeah, for me it's totally Amiga too and I've been very happy to get continuation to my classic Amiga use, which I used as main computer up to 2004. Then I got Pegasos and MorphOS was just perfect to let me continue to use Amiga software as main system. After that MorphOS has just got better and better and keeps up nicely with my computing needs. I've also been Magellan2 user as long as it's existed and that's why I'm very pleased about the direction where Ambient has evolved.


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    As an amiga user, this could easily be an every day system for everything you do (thats what I will do).


    Yup, that's what I've been doing and will do for a long time. Current HW is powerful enough for a lot of things and we have better compatibility with mainstream with web, movies etc than ever.


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    From a non amiga user, Im not so sure. It'd require a lot more compromising and workarounds than youd find elsewhere. Thats not an inherent failure, as much as just the reality of the situation.


    I agree, but still it's closer than any other Amiga system ever to be ready for non Amiga users. It's easy to install, contains pretty much all basic things without needing to dig 3rd party software first, has good and slick UI/filemanagement, has pretty compatible web browser etc... I think that could be called a small success too ;) But of course it lacks software support on many areas and that might be a problem for some users.

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    Overall, I am very impressed. I was very concerned about the high cost of entry, coming from the x86 linux world, but I can't say I've regretted it, and my keyfile was processed in a matter of hours.


    I wouldn't call it high cost. Of course it's not the cheapest/free like old x86 with Linux, but definitely below the average. New PC:s do cost, new Macs cost even more, some people throws hundreds to phones or other portable devices which is much more than average MorphOS system etc. Not to talk about what people are still paying for classic Amiga hardware or other Amiga compatibles. $200-$400 for hw and license isn't that much in today's world I think... think where else it goes easily.
  • »14.07.12 - 06:22
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    runequester
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/11
    now, once we have G5 support... Freegeek here locally often have G5 towers for 200 dollars :)
    Amiga 1200 and G4 MDD MOS as my main computers.
  • »14.07.12 - 12:34
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