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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Everblue
    Posts: 170 from 2004/1/6
    Today is 15 December. Does it make it officially.....

    TWO MORE WEEKS

    :D :D :D
  • »15.12.11 - 07:52
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    Every morning I come here on MorphZone sure to find the news that 3.0 is finally out, instead nothing is still happened..
    Let's wait some other days.

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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Everblue
    Posts: 170 from 2004/1/6
    A mac mini is on the way to me from the UK. Wouldn't it be fun if it turns up on the day MOS 3 is released? :P
  • »15.12.11 - 08:23
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
    From: Lahti, Finland
    @Zylesea
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    I bet for at least 300-500 Powerbook registrations before end of 2012 (hopefully more).

    I bet 1-5000
    For how much we are betting? ;-)


    @Nostromo

    Merry christmas then :-D
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  • »15.12.11 - 08:31
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Everblue
    Posts: 170 from 2004/1/6
    Is that a hint that it is coming out on Xmas :P
  • »15.12.11 - 08:37
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
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    Yes,
    at this point I'll bet on christmas day!

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    It's my Birthday on the 22nd.

    Just sayin'..
  • »15.12.11 - 19:34
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    Megander
    Posts: 85 from 2011/11/28
    Miky060,
    Quote:

    christmas day


    This is gonna mean so much trouble from the side of girlfriends, wifes, children and families in general...

    So please, make it come earlier or later. But not exactly on Xmas.


    [ Edited by Megander 17.12.2011 - 17:45 ]
  • »17.12.11 - 15:44
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    It's Christmas day! There's going to be trouble anyway! So we might as well have a MorphOS laptop as well as a huge gut, bruses, and emotional scars a go-go!
  • »17.12.11 - 16:18
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    Megander
    Posts: 85 from 2011/11/28
    stephen_robinson,
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    It's Christmas day! There's going to be trouble anyway!

    You're right on that one, if I think about it. :-)
  • »17.12.11 - 16:27
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    @hooligan,

    Quote:

    I bet 1-5000
    For how much we are betting? ;-)


    1 to 5000 new registrations for G4 PowerBooks within the first year of it's release. That is a sure bet if I ever saw one. Wouldn't it be fantastic if you were wrong and by some miracle there were over 5000 users interested in running MorphOS3.0 on a G4 PowerBook?

    To suddenly have a user base in excess of 5000 again (or for the first time, I don't know if there were ever more than 5000 MorphOS users when it was free in the pre 2.0 days).

    I wonder which platform will be more popular and receive more purchases, MorphOS3.0 registrations only for G4 PowerBooks, or purchases of Hyperion Netbooks to run OS4? We will never know, as Hyperion will never release sales numbers for their Netbooks and the MorphOS Dev. Team will most likely not tell us how many new registrations of MorphOS3.0 are for G4 PowerBooks, instead of registrations for other compatible hardware, after MorphOS3.0 is released. Although we can probably assume that most new registrations after the initial release of MorphOS3.0 will be for G4 PowerBooks.

    I think that MorphOS3.0 on G4 PowerBooks will out sell OS4 for the Netbook, but I am not familiar with what the size of the current OS4 community is and their willingness to purchase a $300 to $500 Netbook to give themselves a portable OS4 machine, so I may be wrong and surprised by how many they can sell. We are already aware that the brand name still carries much weight with many of the remaining Amiga community. I think the number of sales may be close to being the same, but who can predict such things these days. I know that I will not be buying a Hyperion OS4 Netbook, no matter what the price ends up being. The price of the two portable PPC Amiga inspired systems appears to be very close to being the same, depending on where you live. I purchased my 15" model 1138 PowerBook for $199, plus shipping, but have seen many more similar G4 PowerBooks sell for $250 to $350, or more. That plus the 111.11 euro registration price brings the total price of a MorphOS3.0 PowerBook up to, or a little more than the $500 upper price quoted for the Hyperion Netbook. The performance difference between the two systems will be great, but that will make no difference, and will not discourage most of the potential Netbook buyers. We have already been shown that most OS4 users do not care which system runs faster, or better. Their brand loyalty and preference toward OS4 in most cases is unwavering. I don't want these comments to open the door to any debate, or criticism of either choice, or system. They are not meant as any kind of criticism to anyone. I have my own preference in MorphOS, but have no animosity toward OS4 users and their preferences, and I give them some credit for their loyalty, even if I don't agree with their reasons for giving it.

    [ Edited by amigadave 17.12.2011 - 15:24 ]
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  • »17.12.11 - 22:10
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12479 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > I think that MorphOS3.0 on G4 PowerBooks will out sell OS4 for the
    > Netbook, but I am not familiar with what the size of the current OS4
    > community is and their willingness to purchase a $300 to $500
    > Netbook to give themselves a portable OS4 machine

    I think there will also be buyers of the OS4 netbook who aren't currently members of the OS4 community.
  • »18.12.11 - 21:28
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    I agree.
    MorphOS - The best Next Gen Amiga choice.
  • »19.12.11 - 03:16
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    19th December..
    Tic Tac Tic Tac Tic Tac Tic Tac...

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Time passes. . .
  • »19.12.11 - 08:05
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Everblue
    Posts: 170 from 2004/1/6
    6 more days? Or 11?

     :-)
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    Jambalah
    Posts: 820 from 2008/3/30
    From: Roma, Italy
    Patience.
    Try meditation... ohhmmm =)
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  • »19.12.11 - 08:58
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    minator
    Posts: 371 from 2003/3/28
    Quote:

    I think there will also be buyers of the OS4 netbook who aren't currently members of the OS4 community.


    OS4 must be the only platform that brings out machines that are slower than previous ones. It appears this will be the slowest OS4 machine yet.

    It must be bad enough that smartphones are chasing their high end machine - but having your laptop clobbered by a -low end- smartphone is just plain embarrassing.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12479 from 2003/5/22
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    > OS4 must be the only platform that brings out machines that are
    > slower than previous ones.

    Do you remember the machine that followed the Pegasos II in running MorphOS?

    > It appears this will be the slowest OS4 machine yet.

    It will be faster than PowerUP Amigas. And it will for sure be the most mobile OS4 machine :-)
  • »19.12.11 - 13:51
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    Andreas_Wolf,
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    > OS4 must be the only platform that brings out machines that are
    > slower than previous ones.

    Do you remember the machine that followed the Pegasos II in running MorphOS?


    For many of us it has been the MacMini that is faster than Pegasos II, after that you have been able to run MorphOS on PowerMac MDDs that can be still faster and soon many of us will have MorphOS running on Powerbooks with 1,67Ghz G4, DDR2 Ram and Radeon 9700 GFX boards.. So a faster again machine..

    Efika was for different purposes..

    [ Edited by Miky060 19.12.2011 - 17:44 ]

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    And a netbook (not a laptop) is for a different purpose than a desktop machine.

    There was a long time when the Efika was the only machine you could get.
  • »19.12.11 - 16:04
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    Megander
    Posts: 85 from 2011/11/28
    I played a bit with MacOS and I think it's boring. Even the PowerBook seems to be bored of it.

    Just two more weeks.
  • »19.12.11 - 16:25
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12479 from 2003/5/22
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    >>> OS4 must be the only platform that brings out machines that are
    >>> slower than previous ones.

    >> Do you remember the machine that followed the Pegasos II
    >> in running MorphOS?

    > For many of us it has been the MacMini

    The MorphOS machine that followed the Pegasos II was the Efika 5200B, not any Mac. That's a fact you can't dispute and would hold true even if there was not one single Pegasos II owner who purchased an Efika 5200B.

    > Efika was for different purposes..

    ...as will be the OS4 netbook compared to the X1000. So your point being?
  • »19.12.11 - 22:30
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12479 from 2003/5/22
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    > There was a long time when the Efika was the only machine you could get.

    Absolutely. It was 1.3 years, from the introduction of MorphOS for the Efika 5200B in June 2008 until the introduction of Mac mini support in October 2009. And in the 1.6 preceding years, starting after the sale of the last new Pegasos II boards end of 2006, you couldn't get a MorphOS machine easily, not even an underpowered one like the Efika 5200B. That makes in sum about 3 years between the last Pegasos II boards and the emergence of Mac support.
  • »19.12.11 - 22:52
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
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    I completely agree with Andreas_Wolf in his last few posts in this thread (what a surprise ;-) ).

    I also hope that negative comments like the one minator made will stop, or become less frequent, even here on MorphZone.org. There are OS4 users that read threads here, though not too many I would imagine.

    There is nothing positive to be gained by making childish negative comments about OS4 and I would hope that most, or all of us here can move on to more productive ways of promoting MorphOS, as ridiculing OS4 has proved to have the opposite effect on most of the rest of the Amiga community.

    I know that I have expressed my opinions on how to promote MorphOS, and more specifically how NOT to promote MorphOS here more times than most people want to remember, so I won't go into details again. But I will urge all members here and users of MorphOS to refrain from disrespecting OS4 users and developers. It only hurts our chances of gaining more MorphOS users and I cannot stress enough how important it is to have a larger user base and more developers.

    It is the difference between being nothing more than a large club, or a worldwide community of thriving users and developers that sustains itself, or better yet, grows over time.

    MorphOS is a better OS on cheaper and faster hardware that is easier for most people to obtain. We don't need to degrade anything, or anyone to promote our OS of choice.

    [ Edited by amigadave 19.12.2011 - 17:17 ]
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  • »20.12.11 - 00:15
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