Planning on buying MOS for the first time to install on a 1.42GHz Mini. Would take it since 3.0 is not out yet it will be 2.7 I am buying.

Tell me, does anyone know if I buy 2.7 now if 3.0 is free or comes cheaper for existing license holders?

TJ

Unlike OS4 once you Register Morphos updates are free!

It was announced by one of the developers that the upgrade for existing MorphOS users would be free. Since each license is tied to the hardware it is issued for, everyone who buys it for their G4 PowerBooks will need to pay for a new license for that computer. Users upgrading from MorphOS2.7 to 3.0 will only need to download and install it free of charge and their existing keyfile will continue to work.

I also read, or heard somewhere that the price of MorphOS for all systems except the G4 PowerBook was going down, but I don't know how much, or if this has been confirmed by any MorphOS Dev. Team members.

Maybe one of them will jump into this thread to clarify what the plans are regarding future pricing of MorphOS registration, so there are no rumors going around that are unsubstantiated.

I am okay with the current pricing, so it does not matter to me if they change it, or not.

amigadave,
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I saw that too and I assumed that meant the current discount would stay in place for Power Mac, but Power Book would go back to the original price. I could be wrong, just me ASSuming. My only complaint about the current price is non-EU customers paying VAT.

> I also read, or heard somewhere that the price of MorphOS for all systems
> except the G4 PowerBook was going down, but I don't know [...] if this has
> been confirmed by any MorphOS Dev. Team members.

The following statement comes from a translation of what Fab said during his presentation at Alchimie:

"Older machines like Powermac, Mac Mini and Pegasos will see a little reduction in the license price... a little less."
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8121&forum=9&start=18

My French isn't good enough to understand myself what Fab said there but the fact that he hasn't repudiated the translation or parts of it can be considered as a confirmation I think. So going by that it seems it has indeed been confirmed by a MorphOS Team member.

thanks for remembering where I saw that Andreas. I thought that might have been the reference, but was not 100% sure, so I did not say it was from a MorphOS Developer.

@red,

After reading what Andreas quoted from the translation, I am thinking and hoping that they have decided to reduce the price for every supported system except the G4 PowerBooks to 99, or 100 euros, as that would fit the description of a "little" discount in my opinion. The price for the G4 PowerBooks might be the same as it is now, or it might go back up to the 150 euros that they had all licenses at for a while.

Either price seems reasonable to me.

We should know within a few weeks, if not sooner.

Really?! OS 4 users have to pay for updates?!?!?

XDelusion,
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Yes, I don't get it either.

You don't ? Even lesser income if these would be for free, it's about the money and nothing else.

Good or bad for their business ... well that's another discussion. I suppose most people that have sticked with OS4 so far don't have a problem with it or they would have been long gone already.

XDelusion,
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The update from 4.0 to 4.1 was not free. 4.2 is said to be charged again. The minor updates are free though.

Oepabakkes wrote:,

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It is surprising that only a very few OS4 users have complained on forum sites about the price and the charging for some of the updates on OS4. It appears that there are two full time paid developers working on OS4 with several volunteer programmers working in their spare time. I have not looked for a list of how many OS4 volunteer developers there are, but my impression is that there are less than the number listed as working on MorphOS. This is just an impression I have and is not based on any facts, so I may be wrong and there might be more OS4 developers than there are MorphOS Dev. Team members. It appears that no one works on MorphOS full time and it is not clear which of the MorphOS Dev. Team members are paid anything at all, and which are working for free as volunteers for their own enjoyment of contributing to the MorphOS community.

The fact that no money has been charged for any MorphOS update is very appealing to me and I am appreciative, but even if they had charged for updates, I am sure I would have paid the upgrade price and stuck with using MorphOS, just like the OS4 users have done with Hyperion. I am glad that my purchase of the First Contact X1000 system will include a "Coupon" that will allow me to get OS4.2 free when it is finished and available, instead of having to pay for that upgrade from the OS4.1.5 that the X1000 should come with when it arrives.

Amazing that still someone dares to use the word "coupon" in Amigaworld

XDelusion,
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No.

cha05e90,
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Well, that's merely a matter of definition (or playing with words and version numbers). OS4.0 -> 4.1 did cost money, and so will OS4.1 -> 4.2 (if nothing has changed), while *minor* updates like OS4.1.2 -> 4.1.3 was free.

MorphOS is different in that way since *all* updates has been for free, not just the minor ones (and MorphOS's journey from 2.0 to 2.7 has been so much bigger than OS4.1.0 -> 4.1.3, and I'm *not* talking about version number system here, but real contents). Even the migration from 2.x to 3.x will be free.

takemehomegrandma,
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Indeed.

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But I do.

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(After a rather short visit in MorphOS 1.x times) I did the "journeys" from 2.3 to 2.7 (and Update "0" to Update 3) and I don't think you're right.

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Whether the step from 2.7 to 3.0 will be more than a potential step from AmigaOS 4.1 Update x to Update y has to be seen.

OS4.0 did cost money.
OS4.1 did cost money.
OS4.2 will cost money.

I paid for MorphOS 2.0, and after that *all* upgrades has been completely free of charge, and as it seems, the future upgrades (in the 3.x branch) will be free as well for my registered PPC HW...

This discussion is rather pointless.

MorphOS was a free OS until V2.0.
Since then a license for a machine costs money. But that license is valid for the lifetime of the machine - no matter how many updates there will be. But bound to a particular machine.
Business model: Sales per licensed machine, not per version/update.

OS4. Was not free from the beginning. Updates for 4.0.x were free, te update to 4.1 costed money. 4.1.x updates were free again. 4.2 will cost money again.
Given the hardware situation alone being cost sensitive isn't a benefit of OS4 anyway. So who cares? But everyone knows that and it's entirely the business of Hyperion and their customers...

> that license is valid for the lifetime of the machine

...and beyond, as a registered machine that's broken (beyond repair?) allows for requesting a free key for another machine on a per-case basis.

Let us not get into a flame war in this thread over the two different license fee arrangements between OS4 and MorphOS.

Hyperion is trying to run as a business and sell a product. The MorphOS Dev. Team is not set up the same way, but decided to charge some money for their work and time.

The users in both groups appear to be mostly happy with how things are set up and for the most part are not complaining, so there is not need to compare the two different licensing formats and stir up any bad feelings between users.

As Zylesea said, this discussion is pointless.

Zylesea,
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Yes.