Oepabakkes,
Quote:

probably the SCSI/SATA adapters here http://morphos.de/hardware.html will be usable in PowerMac G4 in MorphOS2.8 (atm these adapters are usable in Pegasos)
I use atm a SATA card iSiI3x1x (but I have some problems) and a SCSI card Symbios 89x (sometimes also problems) in Pegasos2.

Quote:

In the PowerMac FW800 G4 I use atm a very good Adaptec card ; here as seen in pciscan in MorphOS2.7:
Vendor 0x9005 <Adaptec> Device 0x10 <AHA-2940U2B SCSI Controller>
This very good card is perfect in OSX Leopard 10.5.8 and OSX Tiger 10.4.x (not supported in MorphOS2.x)

Quote:

In a PowerMac MDD and FW800 there is an ATA100 (also an ATA66 and ATA33), well I use a very good HD WD 500gb PATA and I have 60Mb/s throughput :) ;) ,so no useful to use (my opinion) a SATA bootstrap HD ; I also use the very good YABOOT for MorphOS2.x, Leopard OSX, Tiger OSX, Panther OSX and Linux Debian ... all in these OS in one HD 500gb :)
here a guide about YABOOT if interested http://www.nonsoloamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=106

In a PowerMac AGP graphics, gigabit ethernet, quicksilver 2001/2002 It could be useful to use an HD SATA via SATA adapter (ATA inside is only ATA66), this is my opinion.
Sonnet has/had good SATA controller for PowerMac, Tempo SATA controller models ( look at here for exemple http://www.sonnettech.com/support/kb/kb.php?cat=284#position_content ) usable in OSX


[ Edited by Divinity 08.08.2011 - 22:13 ]

Jim,
Quote:

not useful SCSI HD bootable ... but yes you can bootstrap from HD SCSI and SATA, but the kernel need to be in a "bootable"/viewable unit for the OpenFirmware (in Macintosh) and for SmartFirmware (in PegasosI/II and Efika)
For exemple you can have an hd PATA in a Mac (with inside the MorphOS kernel boot.img, bootinfo.txt) and a bootable SFS partition in a HD SCSI or SATA (if SCSI and SATA host adapters supported in MorphOS2.x)


[ Edited by Divinity 08.08.2011 - 21:41 ]

Just a sidenote:
Macs CAN boot from PCI-devices (if these have an OF-BIOS onboard). My 2x1.8 QS came with an 400GB IDE HD connected too an ATA133+2SATA PCI card and it booted OSX just damn fine.

[ Edited by Kronos 09.08.2011 - 00:22 ]

Thanks Kronos. That's an interesting option.
What controller are you using?

The onboard one as the combo-card is not supported by MorphOS (and probraly will never be).

O.k. I could have put the boot.img and maybe an ISO-file of the MorphOS-CD to claim some level of booting from SATA ...

AFAIK there is only one out of the box Mac and MorphOS (2.8) compatible outthere (made by Sonnet and hard to find).

Cheap PC cards with the right chip should work (once you found a way to load boot.img from another device) and some of those might even be reflashed to work directly.

Just wait for 2.8 and see what the otions are...

To be precise, it's this one:

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_serial_ata.html

It's a two-port card with a Sil3112 controller...

Mine is waiting for its use in my Powermac G4...

Why that complicated?

I never booted from hd with my powermac from the beginning.
I am using a dedicated usb key with the boot.img on it. The leaves
open which i boot next, if supported or not :)

What hard to find card ? Sonnet still sells it and I found 4 on Ebay ... but they between 80 Dollar and 80 Euro without shipping. Well if it that is what it takes to run Leopard without touching the MorphOS hd's on the internal port and I guess it keeps a certain value.

@Oepabakkes

Well, "hard to find" is often connected to the price you are able or willing to pay... I think in this case Kronos meant a SATA card for a reasonable price, or as a complete Powermac G4 package (e.g. with CPU-card, advanced Radeon card etc.).

Understandable, but when was Amiga computing ever cheap if you talk about new hardware ? Even old vintage hardware is sometimes worth VERY good money.

About this card: Sonnet is quality and the price at Sonnet's shop is reasonable for people in the USA -I think- and in Euro's +/- 57 Euro. But at the German Ebay it's horrible 80 euro + shipping 20 euro. Ouch.

Quote:

Like... in1985? When you could get a A1000 with monitor for 1595$ while Apple Macintosh costed 2,5 grand, and the IBM PC Junior (64 KB of RAM, one 5,25 floppy and no monitor) costed 1300$ ?

1595$ wasn't exactly cheap 26 years ago. A C64, that was cheap in 1985.

Will there be a native MorphOS Professional File System for 2.8?

Considering this two posts, I think meaby..

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7805&post_id=83059&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7805&post_id=83090&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1

Omg, am I Andreas now? ;)

[ Edited by pampers 10.08.2011 - 22:57 ]

> Omg, am I Andreas now? ;)

Don't worry, you're just using the Web in the way it was meant to be used. There's nothing bad about that, as opposed to what some people might tell you ;-)
(You should change the sortorder to "1" in your second link as an ugly workaround for the MZ bugs.)

@pampers

"Omg, am I Andreas now? ;)"

No, because you aren't quoting your own posts.

And more importanly he is not doing it 3 levels deep......

Andreas_Wolf,


The way you post links to a post that contains links, whcih then contains links to the releavant post is not in any way shape or form a good way of using forums. If you have found the info just bloody post it.

+1

> quoting your own posts

Do you know a better way to provide updates, addendums and corrections to posts you made before? Most often, merely editing the posts wouldn't cut it in my opinion.

> The way you post links to a post that contains links, whcih
> then contains links to the releavant post is not in any way
> shape or form a good way of using forums.

Thanks for sharing your opinion on me but obviously I wasn't referring to myself but to pampers and his exciting discovery of the possibility to use hyperlinks on the Web, which it seems he thought was something only I can do. He's apparently still a rookie though as his second link doesn't work ;-)

>> you aren't quoting your own posts.

> And more importanly he is not doing it 3 levels deep....

How would that even work, quoting something "3 levels deep"? In case you mean something like the following:

--------------------
>>> my own gibberish
>> my own gibberish
> my own gibberish

my own gibberish
--------------------

...where did I do this? I can only remember quoting myself as much as 2 levels deep ;-)

Should we make a useless Amigaworld.net-style poll with Andreas as the subject ?

Hi there! What about wifi in the new release ?

Bye bye

I'd say we will find out when new release will be available :)