The Future about MorphOS ?
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    MarK
    Posts: 641 from 2004/1/25
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    well, for this you should imo first create a color calibration for monitors... when this is done, then you can take care of prints... and i don't think, this is simple.

    bye, MarK.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 599 from 2004/11/27
    MarK,
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    well, for this you should imo first create a color calibration for monitors...


    Nearly all, more or less high quality, monitors nowadays have as standart at least sRGB color calibration included (I do not have one single one here which does not have this feature). sRGB calibrates the monitor with a gamma 2.2 at 6500K. Also nearly all, if not all, digital cameras are sRGB color calibrated! Which means that when you open an image you took with your digital camera with sRGB calibration on your monitor which displays the image as sRGB you can really see how the picture was taken and then when you print this image with a printer which takes icc profiles into account then you really get an output which reflects what you see on the screen, and that's the final idea, isn't it?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    MarK
    Posts: 641 from 2004/1/25
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    well, afaik, the idea is to see on the monitor, how it should look like printed, so there should be a possibility to view icc profiled data on screen, the color calibration is very difficult topic, and depends on used colors, used printing method, used media for final prints and also depends on back light, colors differs, when it's on direct sunlight, on shadow, on artificial light... this is the real science, and sRGB itself doesn't solve anything, when you print with CMYK... because CMYK has never as large gamut as any RGB colours...

    bye, MarK.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 599 from 2004/11/27
    MarK,
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    well, afaik, the idea is to see on the monitor, how it should look like printed

    no I don't think so, one should see on the screen how the picture really looks! That's why cameras and monitors use sRGB icc and then for printing a printer icc which needs to "transform" the colors to suit the printer and medium, so that the printed image looks like what you see on the screen.

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    the color calibration is very difficult topic, and depends on used colors

    there is nothing difficult with calibration, other's, the icc consortium, did the thinking and work for us user's, it just needs the support for such in MorphOS ;-)

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    also depends on back light, colors differs, when it's on direct sunlight, on shadow, on artificial light...

    yes viewing conditions do influence how a picture is seen by the user but it's up to the user to setup this condition to best suit the viewing, no direct sunlight, neutral room colors, etc.

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    sRGB itself doesn't solve anything, when you print with CMYK... because CMYK has never as large gamut as any RGB colours...

    that sRGB doesn't solve anything seems to me as a false information! Of corse it does, as it does calibrate a picture so that it is seen by a user on the screen how it was taken with the camera, if the monitor has build-in sRGB calibration capabilities. It is correct that cmyk does not have a large gamut as rgb but this doen't matter if, icc can be used for printing, as it will a kind of transform the picture, so that it prints as close as possible to what one sees on the screen.

    All in all, we normal user's, do not to be sicentist's but can leave this to the icc consortium and just can use their results of development and view and print very high fidelity and quality pictures when using icc.

    Regards

    Christoph
  • »02.09.11 - 05:04
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
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    > What hardware will be for MorphOS in the future?

    Future plans have been outlined in public:

    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34607&forum=28#638608
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
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    > if someone would get into doing an ADB-driver we might get that
    > area to in the form of the 12" iBook.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8042&forum=11&start=98

    :-D
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  • Cocoon
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    Fairdinkem
    Posts: 42 from 2010/8/20
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    Please forgive my ignorance but why is it that none of the developers of any Amiga Variation/flavour particularly MorphOS skipped all the gaps in between and just ported to G5 processors?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
    Posts: 1246 from 2004/2/8
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    Maybe it's because the gaps aren't really that easy to skip?
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  • Cocoon
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    Fairdinkem
    Posts: 42 from 2010/8/20
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    perhaps..... I am just interested in the technicalities, was it just to big a step, availability of hardware, compatibility etc?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
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    > I am just interested in the technicalities, was it just to big a step,
    > availability of hardware, compatibility etc?

    In October 2009, Bigfoot made some statements regarding the reasons for not porting to G5 in an interview:

    https://morph.zone/news/1706.html

    9 months later, the first screenshot of MorphOS running on G5 was shown ;-)
  • »10.06.12 - 08:43
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1369 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
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    Perhaps..... I am just interested in the technicalities, was it just to big a step, availability of hardware, compatibility etc?


    The most requests for new MorphOS hardware have been for portable computers by a large margin. It seems appropriate to cater to this obvious demand.
  • »10.06.12 - 09:15
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