> what was said that really convinced you this is the case, so much
> that you repeated this point half a dozen of times or so today?

It's in the link you just quoted. As for repeating it that much: I'd rather have had to point to it only once, trust me. But I can't do anything about people posting to threads without having read anything else than the opening posting beforehand.

> I got the impression that, if everythig goes well, 2.8 should be the version
> that will include the new gfx drivers.

I think we should be more specific here as there're two different kinds of "new gfx drivers" that have been quasi-announced for MorphOS:

1. Faster 3D drivers for R100/R200. Those are supposed to come with MorphOS 2.8 according to what was said in the video.
2. Full 2D and 3D drivers for R300 (and maybe even R400). Those are supposed to come after MorphOS 2.8 according to what I conclude from what was said in the video.

Also note that pega-1 didn't refute that conclusion of mine when replying to the message containing it (while objecting to another statement I made in the same post). That's a very strong indication that my conclusion is correct.

> since the gfx drivers are basically the reason holding back the PowerBook
> release, that one might come together as well.

Yes, new R300 drivers and PowerBook G4 support is supposed to be released together. That's what I've understood as well. While there were specific features quasi-announced for MorphOS 2.8, PowerBook G4 plus R300 support was *not* said to come with MorphOS 2.8 but "soonish". If it was projected for 2.8 release as well then it wouldn't have made sense to not mention it for 2.8 when other specific features were quasi-announced for 2.8, don't you think?

> this is what I gathered and more or less reported from the meeting, and I
> also asked for corrections in case I wrote/understood something wrong.

Can you please quote the part of your show report posting where you indicate that the new R300 drivers and/or PowerBook G4 support would be projected for MorphOS 2.8 release? I just reread it but couldn't find that part, unfortunately.

> Granted, you haven't been corrected as well, but doing so would mean to publically
> commit for a 2.8 release - something not really in the MorphOS team style.

In his answer to my original posting containing my conclusion pega-1 could simply have said that my conclusion can't be drawn from what was said in the video, for whatever reason (which would go both ways, so no commitment to anything). He didn't.

> I am still inclined to think that [...] we might be in for some pleasant surprises in 2.8.

MorphOS 2.8 with PowerBook G4 support including full 2D and 3D support for R300 would be great, I think. And while I don't have any personal opinion on the probability of such (due to my lack of insight in the progress of the MorphOS Team's R300 driver development) I stand by my conclusion I drew from combining the statements that were made in the video.

> probably it's still too early to exclude any possibility as you seem to
> have been doing lately. ;-)

I don't exclude anything. You know, plans may change. And even if my conclusions are correct for the moment, it could very well be that MorphOS 2.8 for whatever reason gets postponed so much that it won't only contain the new features quasi-announced for it right now but also PowerBook G4 and full R300 support. Who knows? All I know for the moment is what's been said in the video and what I think can be concluded from that. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm not a prophet, so I can't predict the future ;-)