According to

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32608&forum=16&start=180&viewmode=flat&order=0#586073

MorphOS was used for status reports ....

"i'm typing this now on one of amigadave's MOS demo machines, by the way, but if anyone has any other questions, i'll try and answer them as will some of the other attendees who post here. robert is making some great video and is trying to field questions for folks on the amiga.org IRC channel. you can try there as well."

Did organizers forbid to actually show it there ? At least I did not see any other mentioning of it except it being (ab)used for live coverage .....

> Did organizers forbid to actually show it there ?

number6 wrote:

"MorphOS was represented by AmigaDave, [...] he did demonstrate MorphOS and people (those awful reds...in fact) were impressed with the work. [...] I have spoken with people highly involved at both Morphzone and with MorphOS about greater involvement/exposure at the show. [...] MorphOS is "keenly" aware that they have litte to no presence in the United States, and it is their decision alone on whether to address that, and if so, -how- to address that."
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32608&forum=16&start=320#586967

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Ah, ok, so the common "We are not to blame" approach :)

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There were several 0S4-team-members present at the show, noone from MorphOS-team. Thats a fact, and not to be blamed on the organizers.

Offcourse on other meetings like Geit@home or BadB. it's more or less the other way round (and thats why they are often described as too "blue" by ceratin people).

[ Edited by Kronos on 2010/10/29 23:11 ]

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Post #327 from AmigaDave

#6

That post number only works if your preferences are set to show the oldest post as #1 (I don't have mine set that way).

Considering that none of the AmiWest Show organizers use MorphOS as their "Next Gen" Amiga-Like OS of choice, and the fact that Hyperion and A-Eon top brass were in attendance at this year's show, I don't feel I was mistreated, or that MorphOS was disrespected by any of the club members.

On the other hand, they were not inclined to bring too much attention to my MorphOS display and the recent release of MorphOS2.6 with support for the G4 PowerMac towers. I did the best I could under the circumstances and many attendees that had any interest in MorphOS2.x had their opportunity to use and see in use MorphOS2.6 on several computers, including my G4 PowerMac tower and a demo on my G4 PowerBook.

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[ Edited by pampers on 2010/10/30 13:37 ]

Interesting to hear I really wish I could of been their.

<MorphOS is "keenly" aware that they have litte to no presence in the United States...>

What? And Hyperion is a Belgian-German company promoting an OS that runs on Acube's Italian made motherboards.
Presence? Commodore USA is the only Amiga presence in the US.
I live in the US, Amigadave lives in the US. There's a user who PM'd me after seeing one of my posts here that lives only a few minutes away.
Obviously, there is a MorphOS presence in the US.
I should have taken Dave's offer up and flown out to the other coast.

Is this arguement even really important when Amiga's sucess in Europe was greater in the US? Especially when its the Europeans who keep advancing this market?

I noticed this Amiga reseller didnt mention MorphOS at all in his show report.

@Jim & Pampers,

writing forum messages that continue to point out, or escalate the differences and conflicts between MorphOS2.x users and AmigaOS4.x users helps no one. We have more chance of converting AmigaOS3.x & 4.x users to MorphOS2.x by taking the high road and admitting that AmigaOS4.x, like MorphOS2.6, has its good points and many users. MorphOS2.6 is the choice which we believe is the best, and list the reasons why, or demonstrate its advantages WITHOUT degrading or defaming any other OS choice. The Red vs Blue wars only serve to separate us further and prevent users in the opposite camp from even looking at what MorphOS2.6 has to offer.

I have had much more success over the last two years and three AmiWest shows in getting AmigaOS4.x users to look at and admit that MorphOS2.x is a good system by only preaching the virtues of MorphOS2.x itself and never trying to put down AmigaOS4.x, or any other OS.

Getting anyone from either of the development teams to stop fighting or fanning the flames of their dislike of each other appears to be an impossible goal for the foreseeable future, but that does not mean that the rest of the users of each system/OS have to act the same way.

For MorphOS2.x to continue to grow and succeed, even as a small hobby OS, we need more users and programmers of native apps and games. Even the MorphOS Development Team has stated that the most likely candidates for future increases in MorphOS users are from the ranks of former and current AmigaOS3.x & 4.x users. Even if the development teams cannot stand each other, we might be able to form cooperation between the two camps at a user level and possibly at the level of third party software developers and device driver writers, which will benefit both camps users.

I wish you had accepted my offer to join me in going to the AmiWest Show Jim. It is a fun event and really needs more MorphOS users to attend and represent our favorite OS. Maybe next year.

What's there to resell? From a commercial point of view ... what can a reseller do with MorphOS ? Sell keyboards with a butterfly on it ?

A reseller promoting MorphOS ... would sell lesser OS4 licences and/or hardware and getting nothing in return.

What would you do ?

Porting MorphOS to hardware that a reseller can sell wouldn't be a bad move if you want resellers to mention it and gain visibility of your product.... but my powermac is on my desk happily running MorphOS 2.6. So for me it isn't urgent





[ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/10/30 12:50 ]

@Oepabakkes

I only meant show report. The reseller can sell anything he wants. No problem there.

Well ok ... but still you see he can have his reasons not to mention MorphOS from a business point of view.

I have had much more success over the last two years and three AmiWest shows in getting AmigaOS4.x users to look at and admit that MorphOS2.x is a good system by only preaching the virtues of MorphOS2.x itself and never trying to put down AmigaOS4.x, or any other OS.

I 100% agree with this. We can get much more gain (in many meanings of this word) by being positive to MorphOS than being negative to its competitors. Doing some constructive things for our system may be a bit more difficult than trolling on portals, but it is worth the effort .

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I do too , Dave.
I'm glad you were there with the machines you had. BTW - How'd you wrangle a Powerbook port? Anyway I 'm sorry I missed that.

And I'll try to temper my responses on AOS4. It's hard not to point out the differences/advantages, but I've tried to repeatdedly state my continuing support of all platforms. I actually got censored recently on AmigaWorld for statements made in defense of Acube and A-eon's pricing (limited production/market=higher prices - basically)..
And I've also posted more than once that two PPC based OS' (in our market) is a plus, not a negative, as our common base of users is enlarged and cross platform ports are fairly easy.
The more the better (and I'll try to stop chanting we're better).

Perhaps I should reconnect with local users groups to give some demos. In the late 80's a Philadelphia based group (PACs) was helpful in getting exposure for my company's 68K based systems.

What you did was remarkable. We can't expect the MorphOS team to fly around the world on the tiny income our license base provides, but if a few more of us could do what you did (and come close to doing it almost as professionally and even handed as you have) we could at least gain some much needed exposure.

Take care.

> How'd you wrangle a Powerbook port?

"The MorphOS Developer Team was a huge help this year to me in providing me access to a beta version of MorphOS2.6 as well as the work-in-progress on supporting the G4 PowerBook."
(source: amigadave's aw.net message number6 linked to in this thread)