MorphOS2.6 install default partition sizes
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    I noticed that the default size for the System partition when automatic partitioning is selected during the MorphOS2.6 installation is only 511mb and the rest of the hard drive space becomes the Work partition.

    Since everything is put into the System partition, including the Applications and Games folders/directories, this small size for the System partition does not seem to be adequate and almost everyone will end up having to change the location of something, moving it from the System partition to the Work partition, or they will need to repartition their drive manually and re-install MorphOS2.6 using the manual configuration of partitioning and installation location. I know that it is easy to move most AmigaOS3.x and MorphOS2.x applications and games just be dragging them from one partition to another, or copying and pasting them from one to another, but my question is why is the default operation of the MorphOS2.6 installation script to create such a small System partition, when most hard drives used in computers these days are 80gb to 300gb, or larger in size. I would think that the default actions for installing MorphOS2.6 and beyond would better fit the most common situations found in real life, without the need to change things manually. So in this case, I would suggest that at least the Applications and Games folders/directories should be moved to the Work partition by default during the installation of MorphOS2.6 and beyond in addition to making the System partition at least 1gb to 2gb in size by default.

    Maybe this has been discussed already in the past, as I can't believe that I am the only person that has noticed this potential problem.

    For instance, when installing the Pack Ultimate, it's default installation script places many applications into the Sys:Applications directory/folder which leaves less than 1mb of space free after the installation is finished. If the games and/or emulators included as an optional part of the Pack Ultimate are also chosen as part of the installation, it will fail to complete the installation because there is not enough free space left on the System partition to allow the installation to be completed successfully.

    I have suggested that Papiosaur modify the installation script for his next Pack Ultimate version so that it moves the Applications and Games directories/folders to the Work partition, if a Work partition is found, to avoid this potential installation problem. I know that most users are not using the default partition creation when installing MorphOS2.6, because they wish to have a dual boot system, or triple boot system, but we are likely to have more newbie MorphOS users, now that 2.6 has been released and the G4 PowerMac's are supported.

    Anyone else have any opinion's or suggestions on this situation?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jcmarcos
    Posts: 1178 from 2003/3/13
    From: Pinto, Madrid ...
    I have a 64 MB system partition, in which I already have problems with the original MorphOS CD install script: It attempts to write huge useless backgrops, and some more useful things, that I don't use nevertheless. Fortunately, when the partition is full, the installation pauses, alowing for manual file deletion, and continues with no problem.

    Why I'm so stubborn to keep such a ridiculous (by nowadays standards) partition size? Who knows... But what I always try is to keep the system partition as clean and standard as possible, and have everything else in separate partitions. At least, my opwearing system has to boot and offer basic functions wether the other partitions are present or not.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3108 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    We might think about making this configurable, but the default is correct for the OS itself. Whether someone installs additional stuff or not is his own choice.
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2326 from 2003/2/24
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    We might think about making this configurable, but the default is correct for the OS itself.


    But will make the 2.7 update fail for lack of space (atleast that was what happened with the 2.6 update here).

    Or if someone wants to install the SDK .....
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    MarK
    Posts: 641 from 2004/1/25
    From: Prague, The Cz...
    would be great to have some user defined installation abilities, maybe some predefined partition setups, like system, work, data, etc... and system should remember ot for later upgrading... just an idea for MOS 2.7 :)

    bye, MarK.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jcmarcos
    Posts: 1178 from 2003/3/13
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    I'd love the installer to ask for each possibly optional component. Or even separate scripts for each group of functions or resources.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    My point is that if the default installation is going to create two partitions and by default it is going to put the Applications and Games drawers/folders/directories into the System partition, then that partition needs to be larger than 511mb in size, or the default operation of the install script should put those two drawers/folders/directories into the Work partition, where they belong and where there is more room to add more applications and games.

    The applications and games are not part of the OS. I agree that for certain reasons it is desirable to keep the System partition not too large. It should be a very easy change to install the Applications and Games drawers into the Work partition by default for new users that are most likely to use all default settings during the installation of MorphOS.

    If the Dev Team wants to keep the System partition very small, they might consider moving even more drawers that contain programs and files that are not critical to the operation of the OS into the Work partition, but I am not making these suggestions to make more complications. I am only thinking about new inexperienced users and suggesting that the default installation be set up to avoid further changes or modifications as much as possible, in hopes that it will reduce the number of questions and problems from new users asking the Dev Team for help and advice. If no one agrees with my suggestions, it does not matter much to me, I am just trying to make helpful suggestions that I think will be useful.

    @jacadcaps, I agree that the default size of the System partition is adequate for the installation of MorphOS2.x, but everyone that uses MorphOS2.x is going to install more applications, and probably more games to their system, so why not put at least those two drawers into the Work partition, where there is room for users to add all their programs? It does not make much sense to have an Applications drawer in both the System and Work partitions.

    Just my 2 cents,
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  • »20.10.10 - 14:50
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