Yokemate of Keyboards
Posts: 12171 from 2003/5/22
From: Germany
> the MPC8610 is the sensible choice.
There you go. As I mentioned, Varisys claim to have experience with MPC86xx, which bplan doesn't have to my knowledge (I doubt that the Efika 8610 exists in more than on paper only). That's why I'd see no sensible reason to chose bplan over Varisys in commissioning an MPC8610 based design (unless Varisys would request too much money). And yes, I know that the 'MPC8610 Open Source Mainboard' is supposed to be developed by bplan once the required bounty cash is there (which will never happen IMO).
> what the hell happened to the (Nec?) RedTail?!
Really don't know. I've never come across anything else than this
Japanese NEC webpage mentioning the board and having a picture of it and Lonelywildone's
Youtube video showing it in action.
> I see recent videogames and high definition content. Fine. In my opinion, these
> aren't absolute requirements for our little world.
I didn't label them "absolute requirements", but rather said these are *my* requirements. And I can very well imagine that I'm not alone regarding these.
> Moreso if meeting them complicates things as much as it does
That seems to be the case on the OS4 side, yes. In MorphOS realm, where I reside, there's plenty 1.5(+) GHz G4 hardware available :-)
> I like PowerPC, but like many others, only for breed reasons. Nothing rational.
Fair enough. If you are interested, my own stance on Power Architecture can be read
there.
>> Probably there won't be any other PWRficient CPU than PA6T-1682M, yes.
> And yet they use it as the standing stone for a revolution.
To be fair, the PA6T-1682M is what it is. It's currently available (though A-Eon's supplier is still a mystery) and its specs don't suddenly change just because there'll be no successor to this chip. As I said, an assumed future X1000 successor could have quite another Power Architecture CPU and still be superior to the X1000.
Going by your reasoning, the EOL fact could have as well been used against anything e600 based (MPC8641/8640/8610), at least from January 2009 on when
BBRV revealed this sad fact.
>> that wouldn't stop A-Eon from using QorIQ P5 for instance, in an X1000 successor
> Noticed the ROTFL of many at reading the last three words?
You can ROTFL as much as you want. That won't change the fact that the PWRficient being EOL'd certainly wouldn't stop A-Eon from having an X1000 successor developed. There's a million reasons which are better suited to stop them from ever making a successor.
>> should there ever be one, that is
> Then, it would be using a "dead" CPU as the standing stone for a revolution
> which will be the standing stone for a second revolution.
With "one" I was referring to "X1000 successor", not to "X1000".
> All sounding very real.
You assume too much. I don't say that there'll ever be an X1000 successor. I don't even say that there'll definitely be a commercial release of the X1000 itself. The point I try to make is that it won't be the PWRficient being EOL'd that would stop A-Eon from making a superior successor to the X1000.
>> I think PA6T will continue to be manufactured for some years to come,
>> at least until mid-2011 (to mid-2013 maximum) on behalf of Apple, and
>> on behalf of someone else after that.
> If only making a new computer would take half a year...
What does "half a year" refer to in context of PA6T availability?
> even back then, you cared to use Wayback's Machine cache...
Look closer, there's an edit notice. It's not that I foresaw amiga.com going offline or losing content :-)
> I also remember Matt "Neko" Sealey saying the 970 was basically an
> expensive bitch, and thus project didn't make sense.
I think it wasn't so much for the price of the PPC970 CPU itself (see my quote of Neko's statement), else Genesi wouldn't have dared to start the project in the first place.