Why is there no screen dragging in MorphOS? Amiga OS 4.1 has it. It's a feature I have always liked.

Also I rather like the 'screen resistance' feature of OS4. err. another OS that runs on Pegasos2. When you pull a windows actually put it out of the screen needs a little more force (movement on the mouse) to move it out of the screen, than it does just to move it around.

My gott, I explained that badly!

never really used that "feature" not even in 68k AmigaOS.
But i quess if you really like it you can use Dragon, if it works under MorphOS 2.

here ---> http://amigazeux.net/dragon/

XzIt

Pegasos 2 G4 1 Ghz, 512mb ram, 500 gig hdd, MorphOS 2.5 Registerd.
Mini Mac G4 1.25 Ghz, 512mb ram, 40 gig hdd, MorphOS 2.5
Commodore 64, Amiga 500, 600, 1200, 3000, 4000, CD32, CDTV

Liking is the word to use here indeed... it's a feature you might like, but not use - it has no realworld use whatsoever imho.

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I guess you remember that you can control off screen window moving with ctrl (or some other qualifier) key? I don't need to hide windows off screen too often, so I've configured windows not to go out of screen unless I press ctrl key... but I agree that "screen resistance" could be useful as an option too..

Screen dragging support won't happen. case closed.

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While dragOn is nice solution, it havent been updated for ages.

Can it be better and part of OS?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450510868510396&set=vb.1441856596042490&type=3&theater

Yes, it have'nt been updated, but it works nice with MOS3.5.......don't think that there is more to do.

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It can be improved.
It should become part of OS, as people complain, screen draging is kind of expected

Screen dragging might have a limited use in 1988, in 2014 is doesn't even qualify as a gimmick anymore !

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Kronos tells the truth!

Have'nt you read post of pega-1? Nothing more to say.....

Please, just stop.

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Puppet tells the truth, but yet I kinnda like it as show off of something Windows and MacOS X are yet to do

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Since you are a developer, I ll be more serious.

Really? Multiply apps can have their real screens and be used in real multitasking, - that is no use whatsoever inna real world? I am sure you can imagine some use.

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What, you thought that MorphOS and its applications didn't have screens or multitasking? Of course it has! They are just not draggable. In fact, since MUI is a core system wide feature in MorphOS, it even brings some added functionality and flexibility on to screen usage that isn't there in plain workbench.


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Windows and MacOS can't show their display at a 27.5 degree tilt to the right either, which would be about as usable as screen dragging, but that doesn't mean it would be a good feature for MorphOS to have!

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Gimme dat 27,5 degrees

It ain`t Amiga stylee if it aint drag-gable,seen?

Now, seriously, no lame excuses for loosing Amiga features.
Its better to say "will be returned after Classic support but before
MOS 4.0"

If I would rule the world, I would commission Qemu legal bundle with Peg2 files and legal cheaper license of MorphOS 3.x with Cryssalis.

Beat em bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSPYha2Ijdw

P.S. I believe AROS introduced it too, will MOS be only Amiga like OS without it?


[ Edited by vox 26.02.2014 - 11:10 ]

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Which is just fine. This is MorphOS, not some other OS.

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You are developer, you decide.

I, for myself, have always regarded MOS as first fully PPC AmigaOS, made by Amiga users, for Amiga users.

Now, its just "not some other OS". Shame.

Maybe you could type this "not some other OS" as "MorphOS" for a start ....

Other than that, I can only point you at post #6

You are the gfx "guy" in the team, arent you, but why are you so against it, if there is no need (if you dont want to) to touch that code to implement it. You already have code which remembers "damage" done by rendering in bitmaps, from the compositing feature.

Then for screen dragging what you would do is that whenever needed (screen dragged down, possibly more than one screen visible) make a screencompositing screen/bitmap visible (instead of the real frontmost screen) and blit together at the correct pos the gfx from the real screen bitmaps.
Whenever gfx "damage" happens in screen bitmap or screens get dragged around.

Intuition requires a bit of input handling and you could do the screen compositing there or elsewhere.

I have to admit I did not know about Screendragging when I was using my Amiga 500/1200.

Custom Screens are nice but what is the appeal draggability? Ok, a warm and fuzzy feeling because is a unique Amiga feature. I really get that, but is there any scenario where this is actually useful?

@weiseb

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i can't speak for others, but for me, having the ability to drag screens anywhere i wish and tile them as needed is very useful, at least on AOS4, where you can drag items between screens that way.

-- eliyahu

You mostly never drag and drop something between applications, even if they are on the same screen. Even old AmigaOS 3 had no way to drag and drop between screens.

Most applications used an AppIcon on Workbench to allow dropping files, but without screen drag involved.

I remember some rare cases I used that feature. Mostly to see some information and type it into the editor on an separate screen, but that was only due the lack of proper copy/paste possibility. Thanks to MUI this is no issue anymore.

Having draggable screen does not automagically gives new drag/drop features. I use two displays, which show me two separate screens at once. Thats a modern feature, which is handy.

Some old fashion screen drag which loads of side effects is just calling for unexpected troubles.

There is a hack which gives you dragging. Maybe someone builds a new up to date dragging hack, but it will ever be a hack on MorphOS.

Geit

[ Edited by geit 26.02.2014 - 17:23 ]

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AFAIK you use a MacMini - how do you do that (on MorphOS)?