Vox> True, but actually all G designations are Apple designations for chip Vox>generation
And>"G5" is the name Apple has used only for the PPC970 family, which the PA6T And>doesn't belong to (even though the PWRficient was originally intended to be for And>the Apple notebooks what the PPC970 was for the Apple desktops and And>workstations). So I wouldn't call the PA6T a "type of G5 CPU".
Look, its a overall designation, not a single chip, similar to PIII and PIV arhitectires. So if G5 overally designates PPC64 chip, yes PWR Eff is G5.
Examle shown is that Mint PPC64 is called G5. I would call it, and would not be much wrong. As much as I would say my AMCC460 is G3 class chip meaning similar ahitecture and performance as Apple designated for G3s.
Vox> Its kind of PentiumPro or 64-bit modern arhitecture designation.
And>Sorry, I don't understand this, and especially not as a reasoning as to why the And>PA6T should be called a "G5".
Ok, yes, you pretend to be an unformed person while you do know your ropes.
> Mint PPC G5 64-bit [...] does work on PA Semi.
And>The PPC64-compiled *userland* running on top of the Linux kernel works on any And>PPC64 CPU, but you need a special PA6T Linux kernel as the PPC970 Linux kernel And>doesn't run on the PA6T as is (nor on any other PPC64 CPU). That should tell And>you that the PA6T is no "G5".
Well, in this case generic PP64 distro works, yes with insrtation of boards pecific kernel. See above discussion why I don`t link it to a single IBM CPU, which anyway had multiply variants and was never officially called G5.
> PA Semi is great chip
And>No, it was a company that was purchased by another company. The chip is called And>PWRficient PA6T-1682M (full name).
Since it made only one chip and ceased to exist, it might well be the same.
Maybe I am too lame, maybe the name is too complex.
Vox> It seems Pa Semi on Nemo is downclocked to 1.8GHz from 2Ghz
And>> No, according to Varisys and A-Eon it isn't:
And> https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&And>topic_id=7183&start=472
And according to all PA Semi materials it never went below 2Ghz, in fact all materials including AEONs says 5W at 2Ghz.
Vox> I don`t believe them a bit.
And>Fortunately what you do or don't believe doesn't change the facts. I for one And>trust Varisys in their statement, and EETimes agrees with that:
Ever heard of marketing?
And>No, the PA6T was introduced (read: announced) as running *up to* 2.0 GHz, but And>they didn't follow through on that announcement. That's what Varisys and A-Eon And>have said in the link I gave you, and what Kronos has told you right here in And>this thread.
True, but look at all PA Semi materials. Nevermind, it seems chip works fine at 2Ghz being overclocked, or not. Just to add spice, by default on Nemo it starts boot at just 500Mhz.
Vox> Its now possible to buy it at 2Ghz at selected dealers.
Cox> http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2199
And>No, it's not. It's still running at 1.8 GHz. Trevor even clarifies that right And>in the thread you link to. May I propose that you go out of your way and read And>your own link?
It is still running at 1.8Ghz but its possible to buy it at 2Ghz.
Read my lines more carefully. Yes, I have read the post I have posted.
Vox> Trust me
And>I won't, that's for sure. You utter way too much false statements and also And>outright nonsense ad nauseam, even after confronted with evidence, for me to And>trust you.
Look, its doesnt matter is it half, third or 10%. Fast etherned, second core of weak CPU, more then 2GB RAM and anything beyond 2D is kind of vital to me.
Vox> A real DSP on board would be way more Amigish, like Falcon had.
And> Atari computers are "Amigish"? Interesting note
Vox> Falcon is. more then crippled A600, A1200, A4000 and CD32.
And>Your statement that the Atari Falcon is more "Amigish" than Amiga 600, Amiga And>1200, Amiga 4000 or Amiga CD32 is laughable at best. It may work if you define And>Atari as "Amiga" and Amiga as "non-Amiga", but why should anyone do such And>nonsense? Amigas are "Amigish" by definition, that's the meaning of the word. And>The Falcon is clearly "Atarish".
Let me explained, way more useful chips then not so fast AGA was introduced which has proven to be generation leap - especially because Paula remained the same. Much respect to all expansion companies, but specs of A600, A1200 and even A4000 and especially CD32 were almost obsolete day they were out. Even I had spent best days of my life with an A1200, and for example have CD32 as YT channel background as respect to first CD based game console, I do keep critic angle on how Commodore failed. And it was defenetely lack of innovation. Sadly Falcon, I never had chance to use, was quickly abandoned to Jaguar.
So in sense in which A1000, A500 and A3000 were really steps forward,
CDTV was nice try, and A500+,A600 and even A1200,A4000,CD32 means of cheap survival, yes, Falcon was quite Amigish.
Vox> Let's see what "they" actually claim with regard to Transputer: [...]
And> I can't really see anything "false" in these claims.
Vox> Don`t let me find all adverts from that time.
And>Please do, else I will continue to refute your claim of "
false advertising And> with its comparison to Transputer".
How Xena is very expandable? What shared arhitecture it has with Transputer concept?
How can it be hacked? Is it a funky programmable chip? How to reach up to 400MIPS?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22693/New_Amiga_Sports_Programmable_Co-Processor_Dualcore_PPC
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/21/amiga_x1000/
http://www.amigamccc.org/journal/1002x100.htm
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/blog-post/1686907/transputer-lives-amiga-one
http://www.zdnet.com/amiga-lives-amigaone-x1000-pc-hits-beta-4010023987/
Vox> and adding more Xena cores (how when Xorro isn`t it? Via USB? PCI?)
And> http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1135
Vox> I have wrote only review of Xena and X1000, thanks.
And>Sorry, I don't understand.
