• Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Neko
    Posts: 301 from 2003/2/24
    From: Genesi
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    Nonetheless, I wish you luck with your diminishing market.


    Neko, wow. Those and your other comments are harsh words for MorphOS users.


    You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs, I always say.

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    I don't agree with your position that a PPC Mac mini release of MorrphOS is a poor strategic choice, just because it is a second-hand market and one has to go to an online auction site or some other second-hand seller.


    Let's be clear here: the Mac Mini was a great strategic choice, however for a sustainable market it should have been ported and been working *at the release of the Mac Mini* and not still in progress 2 years after Apple have vowed never to touch Power Architecture ever again.

    That point was about halfway through the Pegasos' lifespan.

    Right now, it is not a SUSTAINABLE market. Great idea, 4 and a half years too late.

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    We looked at eBay yesterday and there were 39 to 45 Mac mini PPCs, most or all apparently in very nice shape. Each more powerful than the most powerful Pegasos.


    And when you buy those 45? Will 45 more pop up to replace it? How long will that continue?

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    You said Freescale laughed about 68k compatibility, but they probably didn't understand the point. MorphOS has the Abox to run Amiga software and bring existing developers along in a familiar environment.


    Developers do not need the m68k emulation to do what they need to do. Users are the only people who should be concerned that it runs old apps. Developers would just recompile it for the new architecture.

    It surprises me that you would go so far as to tout the Mac Mini as the future of MorphOS, but you didn't follow the Apple-Intel transition at all - developers got boxes first, they recompiled all their apps with one click using XCode, then it got released, and 6 months later half the updated apps in the world no longer worked on that OS release anyway (Mac developers are really not concerned about staying compatible with anything but the last release - if you don't have some kind of Leopard right now, you're screwed :)

    As weird as this sounds, it is a sustainable market.

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    Even if you found some Freescale person who laughed because you didn't explain it correctly.


    No, we explained that We Have The Technology and they basically said that it was the most pointless technology ever. Freescale's entire development strategy with m68k->PPC was give people the ability to compile PowerPC code. Actually running it natively? Absolutely none of their customers have this desire, at all. It negates every benefit of the PowerPC architecture and new operating system technologies to demote apps to running in an emulator, even if it *IS* a fancy real-time native-performance caching JIT.

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    Maybe we can do some head-to-head tests.


    That implies MorphOS gets ported in the first place.
    Matt Sealey, Genesi USA, Inc.
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