Either AmigaOS, MorphOS or AROS users.

http://map.minimig.net/


Map yourself. How many of us are still using Amigas in 2009? In 1992 there was over 7 million Amiga users worldwide. During the nuclearbomb in 1994 and smaller napalmbomb in 1996. There are still users hanging to their beloved operating system. Many have asked in years how many Amiga users is it in the world? Now it can be revealed. Put yourself on the map either blue or red or black one,....

The map system works nicely in OWB, so no excuses here :)


http://map.minimig.net/

I was entering my location but I decided to stop when I had to input all kinds of private information like my exact address. How secure is that site? Is all that information needed anyway? People should be able to fill up the map more casually if you want it to work...

Wasn't there this kind of map already anyway? Or it was just for MorphOS users? I remember adding myself sometime ago but I even forgot the URL of that site xP

> Wasn't there this kind of map already anyway? Or it was just for
> MorphOS users? I remember adding myself sometime ago but I even
> forgot the URL of that site

There was Pegasos World (MorphZone news item), though I can't find you there.

Edit: Or you mean the Frappr Maps (this one or that one).


[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf on 2009/7/22 3:02 ]

Sorry guys great idea but entirely too draconian...

My address, my email address, my login information...

NONE of this is your business and should not be in a site that purports to be simply showing where Amiga machines are located...

I will NOT be filling this info out until it becomes more anonymous.. (And reasonable)

Quote:

same here. enough big brothering.

I like this, added myself ...
There's never gonna be any map to show all users, but this gives nice idea around the globe and it was easy to add my details...

I dont know if I agree on that its a big brother thingy. Its nice to get your personal
data as then its not that easy to cheat and put up hundreds of clones.

I think its vital stats. If you are afraid of giving personal information together with
what sort of Amigas you have and so on. Then ok. But it doesnt cost you anything.

Its nice to know where you can find Amiga people when travelling etc. Just that and
stats are cool!

Well guys sorry but I am not going to fill this out. It is asking for some private data and I am not the one who will proivde any site with them. But I am still here! A fanatic Amiga user dedicaded to MorphOS!!!!

Just signed up here to be able to follow and answer the thread. I'm the one who came with the idea of the map, built it, and the only one who administer it (which means I'm the only one who see all the data entered)

I have answered the question about the personal information in the other forums the where the map is discusses, and the short version is that address (street), city and country are used for checking that the point on the map is approximately at the right position.

I had to delete a few users who had put themselves in the Atlantic Ocean and on Antarctica, and I have also used the information to correct the format of the coordinates given (a few people typed in the coordinates by the Deg, Min, Sec format which is not accepted by Google Maps)

The e-mail address is used as on every other forum and user community - to give the users the ability to create/change their passwords, and to let them log in to change any information that belongs to their account.

Other information that is automatically stored is the visitor's current IP-address (this because of the standard logs on the web server), and the referring site (for me to follow amd answer discussions about the map). These logs are really common, and a very few sites even mention that these things are logged.

// P-O Yliniemi, peo@bsd-guide.net (I'm not afraid of spam :) )

@peo

thanks for your reply :)
that answers some of my questions, but I still wonder about the security of the site. If you created this thing from scratch it may have a few security holes...

If the only purpose is to verify the location of the user, you could either:

a) make that data temporary and assure the user that the data won't be stored in the server after the address has been verified;

b) force the user to input his location in the map exclusively by inputting an address.

Ultimately, you have to believe the users, since it is possible to give a false address too. And there may be some people actually located in the Antartica or in submarines in the pacific ocean and you erased them ;p Poor guys :p

I appreciate the reply, but my point of view is that I don't want an "account" and I don't want to need to make updates to it..

Why is an account needed to post a map? I personally hate how nearly every site wants you to create accounts and passwords and other crap and I often don't participate because of this..

MorphOS is a community and therefore an account and password is reasonable... All of that overhead and information as well as the risk of providing it is not reasonable just to place a tack on a picture..

Just my opinion....
(I LOVE the idea of the map, but it should be much easier to post info anonymously... )

As for trusting your users... Who the Heck would want to post erroneous info? And why?

Maybe Bill Gates will hire some bad guys to hack the server and with the info, he can find and kill us all

Yeah I am sure that Billy Boy is VERY concerned with us Amiga owners and where we live...
LOL

The server I host the map on is at my work, and nobody except me have access to it (through the shell). Thats gives a bit of security on its own, but if some of the admins or programmers of the sites that are hosted on the server really do want to find out the Amiga user's information, it might not be impossible.

Using PHP to read other's files isn't possible because PHP is configured for "SAFE_MODE" (which for me as a system adm only means more problem than safety), and ordinary virtualhost users cannot get out of (open files outside of) their home directory.

I do not imply that the site is bullet-proof, but it should be pretty safe. I will not go into more details about how the server and system is built, since knowledge of the inside is what helps a possible intruder to get in.

a) simple to implement, either for all users or as an option at the creation of the user, but if I wipe all private information I will not be able to sum up by city, state or country later.

b) doesn't work, Google Maps cannot find every place on earth (yet)

As for the private information, this information is already widely available through online telephone books (and in Sweden even the SSN equivalent "personnummer" is availalble on some sites).

Still, if you don't want to fill in all the private fields, then don't. If you fill in useful data in the rest of the fields, then I will accept the submission.

@peo

It's good that you're thinking about security issues.

For anyone developing a web site or services, here's some good reading:

http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2007


Regarding personal information: For example in finland a website is mandated by law to maintain a privacy policy document which will explain the contact information of the registry maintainer, the specifics about the actual information maintained, the purpose for maintaining the registry, and to who and under what circumstances can the information be disclosed.

I'm sure having such document around would alleviate some fears people have about disclosing their private information.

[ Edited by Piru on 2009/7/28 22:21 ]

> http://map.minimig.net/

Interesting comments from you:

"that map have been only active since last Wednesday when I posted on aw.net forum about it."
http://www.osnews.com/permalink?443607

"after just 4-5 days, 1000 Amigans have registered."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuuDjJUdgMQ