Do butterfly eat cherry ?

http://72.51.37.17/

No, they don't. But, they could coexist nicely. The Cherrypal management is aware of MorphOS 2.0 and we have discussed a number of possibilities. We write this from the Cherrypal perspective as we are playing a significant role in the future of Cherrypal. Those details will be available in the not-too-distant future. The best thing that could happen to increase the odds of a collaboration is a vibrant, even if small, community. Let's see how the community coalesces and grows around the latest MorphOS release. BTW, we are looking for ways to facilitate that process.

R&B

@ BBRV:
The last i've heard from MOS-Team is that they don't have any Cherry Pals to Port MOS to this Hardware and that they will only do this for money.
Are you or Cherry Pal Inc. interested in a MOS2 Port for the CP devices? And did any MOS-Team members recived a developer system?

We don't have reliable hardware systems yet. The chip itself has been through a number of revisions. This has slowed us down. We will know soon if the time is right to start distributing systems. Perhaps, you know that we had a Freescale 5121e based system at PowerDev Meetings #2 and #3. We will have more details and very likely a GNU Linux beta release candidate and hardware at PowerDev Meeting #4. We will see what we can organize using MorphOS once that software is fully released with the new hardware. In the meanwhile, have a look at this:

Cherrypal C1XX Demonstration Video

This was created on an EFIKA Open Client Plus. As you can see some of the software is running on MorphOS.

R&B

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The NYTimes article and the comments are insightful if this topic interests you: Smaller PCs Cause Worry for Industry.

R&B

This are pretty interesting news.
But how will iTunes work on that Linux that drives the Cerry Pal?

Well, we never said that. It seems Cherrypal may still believe some of the THTF hype that Jack Campbell got started.

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The first Linux released will be here:

openSUSE ADS512101 Support Page

R&B

Linux + X + whatever is slow on efika from my pov. This software solution can't give a good user experience. Laggy window move, slow refresh, slow rendering. 5121 devices are not faster than 5200 from the CPU perspective. I hope cherrypal will manage this with some optimised tools. But the task seems hard...

From a pure desktop view, Morphos is doing very well on efika... I hope there will be some kind of bridge later between the butterfly and the cherry !

I would really love a 12" OLED 5121 laptop with 8h batery life housed in an aluminium case a la powerbook.

What do you think:

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Please share you thoughts on the thinking behind the approach. Of course, we also thought these were great too:

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What do you think? We would appreciate your feedback. Thank you!

R&B

I think they are all Good... although an Efika based
Laptop would be by far the "Coolest" computing of all,
I think there should be some Ice somewhere instead of just
green But I know what Your getting at.

As far as Morphos on any new devices... unless alot of work is going
to be invested in scaling down Linux it will be hard
to show the systems true performance at least when comparing
it to Morphos. I still feel Morphos gives the best representation
of what can be done with the modest hardware that is not only Cool but Green
all at the same time... I have always believed You've been
on the right track.. just need to catch the right train!!

My son has wanted a Laptop for the last two years... Last year we obtained
a Dell inspiron... for the family... but he wants one for himself
and has begun saving money to support the OLPC effort. Personally
I think the Idea is good... but am not thrilled about the hardware itself.
If He could get something Like the CherryPal at its expected pricepoint.
I would be satisfied... but if something similar to it (Efika based) was running
Morphos I would be excited!!! and we would get two or more. Keep us posted.

Thank You.

I do agree with katos1.

green + blue is the best combo. Linux will have a hard time to catch the desktop performance of morphos which is quite amazing on my Efika. Linux can't stand a second...

The major 'problem' with morphos is the lack of some mandatory applications :

- premier pas (remember wb 1.2 ?)
- a finalised browser (sputnik on the way)
- a mailer (YAM?)
- a media player (sounds, vids & pictures)
- a media manager (sounds, vids & pictures)
- office tools (text, cell, draw)
- an instant messaging (jabbre, sabre, polyglot, irc, etc)
- a burning tool (burnit, makecd ?)
- pdf reader (apdf)
- network browser (smb, bonjour, nfs)
- ssh, sftp
- sdk
- online update

All this packaged in a nice preconfigured desktop.

I would be very happy to promote this around me.

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The bigest problem for MorphOS is the lack of a decent
Office-Suite and a Browser that can handle all sites except
Java and Flash. I hope that Sputnik will fill the gap
with his new rendering engine.

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For sure. Damn HTML mails.

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I was more thinking about something a bit more polished than a command line tool... apple & ms have some nice tools to browse media and play them. You get my point? Some media center stuff with eye candy. People loves handy eye candy and much of them are not really fond of cli...

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Sure. Can I manage my media with showgirls? drag drop from drawers? rename, tag, delete, share, send by mail ? See itunes/iphoto for example. Can i see mp3 tags on ambient ? Can i see the resolution of my pictures ? etc.

Ambient is good (much better than what we were used to have) but there is room for improvement.

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I hope too for sputnik & office.

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And don't forget Adobe Flash!

It's probably pretty much impossible for any smaller company to match the Eee in the consumer market. Unfortunately.

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Well, CherryPal certainly has got some attention in global press, haven't they? They need to start delivering soon though ("Units will begin shipping at the end of July", let's see about that)...

BTW, Maybe Freescale will play a role in the future and issue better support towards end-user product developers? That's at least the signal *I* receive from things like this. IMHO, Freescale's CEO seems fully committed.

@Tcheko

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What is that?

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Apdf and SSH are included with MorphOS 2.0...

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Even though I feel Morphos is better at demonstrating
the strengths of a small system like Efika/(eta). It
is still central to have an open source os... Morphos
doesn't have to be perfect... with linux as main os
Morphos can be used as a demonstration... which could
bring New people (into/back to) the community user's and
developers alike

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Touchpad on the side is good but for left handed people? We should have touchpads on each side.

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It misses a pipe holder somewhere.

Some laptop features :

- The keyboard should have backlite as some apple laptop.

- The back of the screen should be covered of photovoltaic cell to help battery life. Like 80's calculator.

- USB port should be on the side and not on the back. (some laptop have them on the back and it is a mess in the bed to not bend the usb device)

- The touchpad can be replaced by a touchpoint on the edge.

- Replace keyboard/touchpad mess with a LCD touchscreen.

- Make it works on 12V.

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I do agree.

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It was a floppy named "Premier pas" in France. Maybe First step elsewhere. It was delivered with system floppies.

It was a demonstration of how to close/drag/resize window, open drawer, delete files, etc. IIRC it was interactive.

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I know. I have my registered Morphos2.0 on my Efika. I was just summing up some usefull tools.

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