Read the 20 Answers with Alan Redhouse of Eyetech:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2339

Very sad day for AmigaOne and OS4 users

Think you need to read it again, it doesn't say that at all.

@deb

Well I hope not! I always wanted to be the "Purple Moderator" there

Well, he does say that they need new markets, 'cause the
Amiga-market is saturated.

This is what Genesi has said for over a year, and finally
Mr. Redhouse realized it aswell?

But it's hard for eyetech to challenge new markets with their offerings:
- faulty Articia
- no strong partner
- not much cash

sorry for Alan, but the train has left the station already...

@TreeBeard:

Please Read Question and Answer number 6

It wasn't exactly full of GREAT news -- but I don't think I'd go so far as to say it's the "end" (not yet, anyway).

Everything in the answers was already known (or suspected).

As far as a platform for OS4 -- there's still the ACK boards if the A1s "go away".

@deb

Although, by no means will I ever get into an argument about A1's etc on this site (have hardly ever on aw for that matter), I took Question 6 to mean something else:

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I think what he states there is that no new board will be specifically designed designed for the so-called "Amiga Enthusiast" market, ie. you and I.

My take is that if he's able to sell more sizeable numbers of boards (whatever they may be) to industrial clients, then we'll see such developed boards taken from the industrial market and sent to the consumer market.

Dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I read into it.

What about releasing MOS 1.5 today? :)

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Not until my Peg has arrived please.

Well, even though Alan's answers hold no real suprises, I hope that it at least clarifices some things for current A1 owners.

Let us hope that OS4 will be released for A1 owners and they can fully use their machines for what they bought it for in the first place.

And who knows, maybe OS4 will eventually find another more viable platform to run on.

@Bodie_CI5

I do not think there will be much interest from the industrial market for such way expensive boards, but I hope you are right.

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Any reservations that people may have are fair enough IMO. In any case, there wouldn't be any sense in debating whether such a market could ever be carved out, as it is based on too many factors and in all probability, very subjective. But I do wish they were cheaper.

@Stevo

OS4 is not chained to A1, it will be released this year. AmigaOne is already perfectly usable with OS4.

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It seems to run on other two new hardware platform plus old classic. Anyway we need a big box computer like Peg2.

@Zylesea
- faulty Articia

Oh no not again. The problem with Xe is via686b not Articia. Articia is not bugged at all, the only bad thing (and yes, it is an important one) is taht it lacks cache coerency. For OS4 it isn't an issue but for Linux yes, bacause you need to write a specific kernel..... this is not good if Alan want to sell the board, i agree.

@ironfist
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Probably we had MicroA1 after someone buy a bigger number of boards, i'm quite sure. Anyway Alan doesn't know how to do marketing and find partners.

At least despite all the trolling, my XE is incredible fast and cool with OS4 and this is what is important imho.

I really hope to see ACK boards now... since the XC is far from become reality now.

[ Edited by ikir on 2005/6/6 14:20 ]

"In other words the more vociferous the criticism the less likely you are to see new products."

Alan Redhouse of Eyetech, 6/6/2005.

@ikis
What you mean for big box computer like Peg2?

@ ikir

With "faulty" I was referring to the cache coherency. And this *is* a problem if you wanna sell it to the Linux folks.
And - to be honest - the money is not where OS4 or MOS is, the money is where Linux is. Therefore it will be *very* hard for Alan to find new customers, and therefore I wrote "faulty". It would have been better if I wrote "doubious", because that is how the Articia is recognized.

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'no professional with connections everwhere'

Thats pretty close to slander.

First, I'm glad to see a topic, any topic, survive in "The Bar". I was afraid that not allowing off topic discussions to appear on the main page might kill the discussions. Thank goodness I my fear was unfounded.

Next, a person's opinion is not slander; however, stating an incorrect opinion as a matter of fact IS slander. If stating something negative, please make sure any and all facts are correct. If you are stating your opinion, please be sure to make it absolutely clear that it is only an opinion.

Finally, about the topic... I don't see the AmigaOne being any more "dead" than before the Q&A, a week ago, or even three months ago. In fact, I didn't find anything about what he said to be shocking or even unexpected. Heck, if anything, I'm glad that he "spoke" with some candor(sp?).

I just hope that this doesn't make the hardcore "redcampers" feel cornered or our own hardcore "bluecampers" feel like they need to strike while the "enemy" is down. Both groups probably will, but I can still hope that everyone will keep a level head...

Besides, if both groups play their cards right, we could coke and pepsi some disgruntled mac users away

@Targhan

Well, The Bar is really the right place for this kind of thread/discussion It might be a good idea to advertise "The Bar" as a place for talks about various stuff while not being on the front page. People tend to look over it now.

@Ikir

I might not have been clear enough. I just have hopes for the existing A1 community that they'll get OS4 final and that it will life on after that. With "life on after that" I mean continuing support for that platform. And since it seems that the future of the current line of A1 mobo's is unclear, I also hope that OS4 is or will be ported to HW that is/will be available and has a future next to that

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Yeah, we'll see how things pan out. I just hope Alan made it sound more pessimistic than it really is. Although, I guess, only time will tell.


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Well, my first choice would have to be the Peg.


@ Targhan

Cheers. And lol at Coke and Pepsi

I was told that ACK was sent an email to do a 20 questions for AW.net a while ago. The people at AW.net never received an answer.

But Elbox agreed. So we might see what they have in store for Amigans.

That was a refreshing bit of candor from Alan. Its interesting that
they were told that Amiga wanted to do OS4. They never did-and
believe me I BUGGED them about it ALL the TIME :-O. I was also told
that AI weren't getting revenues from Amiga OS from Haage and Partner
because of a 'sweetheart deal' with Petro that AI forgot to check out
or weren't told about when they bought in, counting on some royalties
which were or were not really theirs. I wonder if that was true
either..

Well, at least Alan is being reasonably honest about things, I
appreciate that. I wish them all good luck, maybe they'll port OS4 to
the mini-Mac. THat'd get me in there