Hello,
I'd like to know if someone have experienced using MOS with Apple IPod mini or Creative Zen players(which is the best in your opinion?).
I'd like to buy one of these nice devices .
Apart the very slooow USB connection with Peg are there problems? Are they mass-storage compliant?
Thanx in advance and aloha.

Well mine if mac formated. Thats how they come new as well. If I plug
mine into the Peg it charges and is detected in Trident just fine. It
tells me its available on usbscsi.device which I dont know how to
access to format it. I was going to try for you and just restore it
from the mac.

Now you couldnt put MP3 music on it and use it as a player. It
requires itunes to do that. You would just have an real fancy 20, 30,
40 or 60GB USB hard drive is all.

Edit:
I decided to use VPC and format my ipod under windows. It does word
as a hard drive in MorphOs with fat95 installed just fine. Not that I
would use my ipod for that!

[ Edited by Acill on 2005/3/5 16:30 ]

Maurensen:

Get in iRiver HP-120. It's to get from around 300 EUR and it is
MorphOS compatible. It can replay mp3, OGG, Wave, WMV, it can record
(in *full* hifi quality), has a good analog part (i.e. it sounds still
good if connected to a hifi system), has digital inputs and a radio
build in. It comes with a good remote control and the accu is reported
to last long. It can handle WinAMP playlists. All in all it seems
technically the best mp3 player around.
The big advantage of iPod is iTunes music store, but if you do not
need that the iRiver will be the best choice.
I myself haven't one yet, but I plan to buy one soon.

The ipod is not a standards complaint device. It has its own proprietary drivers afaik.

I use a Creative Nomad MuVo 256mb Mp3 player/usb stick that works great with Morphos.. most usb stick mp3 players will work.

@Zelsea

Bah who needs Apple music store when we have AmiNetRadio

magnetic

Although you can use the Ipod with Peg FW and MOL


[ Edited by magnetic on 2005/3/6 3:34 ]

YES it does work !

I have an iPod 4G, FAT32 formatted. On pegasos 1, under Linux, I can synchronize it via GtkPod by Firewire. It's mounted automatically and works fine :)

I didn't try, but I guess it should mount under MOS with fat95 as well, but you need a specific piece of software to sync mp3's, and usb1 would be too slow anyway.

@mahen & all
Thanx 4 the replies!
I need something big than a USB stick because I must share it with my son
So basically if I format the Ipod under fat32 I can only use it like an external HD because it can't read this format to play music...
What a pity! I'd like to use it also under MOS but I have MOL under linux to access it...
@Zylesea
So the Iriver is a masstorage device formatted under fat32 and should works under MOS...
Who cares abaut Itunes, I'd like to have an IPos because it's "cool" but I think I will follow your suggestion!
Thanx again

As said I haven't one myself yet (well first I pay my easter vacation at Lago di Garda et Milano, then I'll have to look what's left in the wallet ), but it was reported on the highway usb mailing list that the iRiver hp-120 works with poseidon and mounts itself as mass storage device.
All test reports I read said it is the device with the best audio quality and that is IMO the most important feature.

Maurenson : iPod is not a bad choice :

if formatted in fat32 :

under MOS it should work (not tried) like any mass storage device, it'll be slow but still useful

under linux, via firewire, you can send music quickly (no need for MOL, just linux + gtkpod)

@Zylesea
The lake of Garda is a beautiful place expecially 4 windsurfing, nice choice!
I think now you'll find a little cold to go swimming but you could play with penguins on the pack.
Aloha and happy Easter vacation here in Italy!

So, maurensen, did you make your choice?

[OT]@ Zylesea:
Wheater is getting better, if it's sunny, you'll have a very good time in Easter. Congratulations for the choice, I like the lake of Garda quite a lot...[/OT]

Kind regards,
Andrea

Oh yes, I am looking very forward to it. The only drawback over there will be that they cannot have the world's best ice cream because I awarded that title already to the Gelateria "Cesare", Reggio di Calabria (and I tested a lot).

Yes, I've made my choice, I've bought an IPOd mini 4gb version @ 205 Eur.
Here my personal impressions:
the machine is very nice and compared to other solutions it seems me very "solid". Not to mention the metallic cover and the very cool look! Then, the navigation mode via touch-pad is beauifu in its simplicityl!!
The bad things are in the software side imho.
You can't do anything without ITunes program that is slow and crappy also on a Pentium2500!!
In fact, once mounted on a win box, the Ipod hd is formatted in fat95 mode and you can access it like a normal external HD in MOS via USB1.1 & Poseidon.
The sad part is that yes, you can copy mp3s to Ipod via MOS but you can't play them because you need to create a proprietary playlist with Itunes and the format of the database created by this f...ing proggy is very criptic. I'm trying to study it to try to make a MOS proggy that writes an Itunes playlist but I can't promise you nothing, as I'm not a very skilled programmer
From the linux side, i was not able to install GTKPOD because under YDL some shared libs are missing. I've tried to download it but I lost myself in dark after 2 or 3 session of cryptic ./config, make, make install... Linux!
So, the only thing that prevent to use an IPod under MOS is a proggy able to read and write Itunes playlists. So 4 now, I'm copying my mp3s ripped with Peg directly on the Ipod and then I create my Playlists on a winbox at work... Not very nice but it works!
Is there some more skilled programmer than me that want to try?
Aloha

It won't help you much, but with a Debian on my peg1, a simple

"apt-get install gtkpod"

did all the job. It events mounts etc automatically without touching anything...

10x, I've tried the equivalent command under Yellow Dog Linux:

yum install gtkpod

but it seems the package isn't available...
Bah, I'll try one day to install Debian but YDL is so nice with so many packages pre-installed...

Aloha

I got a Zen Micro as christmas present (got it on Jan 6th, as a tradition in Spain), and I have tested it under MOS. It doesn't work :P. At least, not directly (it was evident it was not going to work). Zen uses some propietary drivers.

In the other hand, if you set de zen in the options as a masstorage drive, (you can configure up to 2 gigs of space as a drive), yuo can use that part of the memory as any other masstorage drive. The bad thing, is that you can't listen to the music copied there, zen only plays the files located in its propietary part of the memory.

If anyone can make a driver for MOS, it would be usable, as Zen does not need a playlist to play files, it plays them directly if you want.

Hi,

I have iPod 30Gb video Windows formatted and under MOS appear like Ipod multiple device but i se jut 2 huge files with anagramated names.
With Linux Ubuntu works like masstorage and with GtkPod i syncronize music and playlist but no movies to transfer

Also i put some little program in notes folder in iPod and work.
With PegXMac 1.4 none,with Molk i get info of iPod in 'About this Mac" menu but can't syncronize at all.

I must use my son PC to syncronize Movies to iPod.

I fact is a good device.


Waiting for some news about iPod conectivity with Pegasos II

I try to remane iPod device from MOS...and after that my iPod entered in restore mode ,must to restore to run again....

I see if write something in my iPod from MOS,destroy something and make unusable just like masstorage (In Ubuntu)

Any chances to see the files on iPod from MOS?

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Hi Acill,

some months ago my brother got an iPod Video with 60 GB. He formatted it on his Windows PC.
Now we wanted to "mis"use it as an USB HDD to exchange some files.
I tried both, connecting to onboard USB1.1 hub and connecting to USB2.0 hub at my PCI-card.
After playing around with some Poseidon (3.3, registered) settings, I could access it as an drive. But it seems to contain just two very large (nearly 4 GB) files with cryptic names.

I also tried reading it with Linux. But whenever I connect the device, the complete (pegasos) system freezes. Same occurs with MacOS X via MOL.

Did you have to do some specific settings in Poseidon and/or the iPod itself to make it work as an harddrive under MOS ?

Hi,

Try to enter with iPod in "diskmode"...
With linux must work even is hfs formated like mine

At last in hfs format the iPod is impossible to read data from MOS.

Yes you need to have it in disk mode. I didnt do anything at all in MOS or Poseidon to get it working. Dont mess with the files you see on the drive. They are hidden and contain your iPods OS and other things used to make it work.

If you have it formated as a MSDOS device it should just come up when you plug it in.

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Is this a setting at the ipod device itself ?

I know that some devices (like my mobile phone)need to be set to a specific USB mode to operate as a disk. So I already had a look at Ipod settings menu but couldn't find sth. appropriate yet.
BTW. In the meantime I had the possibility to connet it to a Windows PC. There it was recognized as a drive. But there once was iTunes preinstalled afair. Windows also its own "Media Device Protocol". Maybe ipod supports this, too and thus works?.