Amiga Inc *did it* ;D
  • opi
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    Posts: 100 from 2003/3/9
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    Oh man! This is the end of the world! The Tee Shirts from Amiga Inc are out there. I guess we lost our best argument in flamewars, no? :D My Pegasos Tee just start to worn off. It has 3 years, so it's the highest time. ;p
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    Well if it wasn't a goverment holiday (MLK day) here in the good ole' USof A I sure would have my t-shirt today - not a lot to show for $50 is it? ;-)

    The t-shirt was the smallest part of the flame, here are a few others:

    1. Lieing about product development
    2. Deliberate interference in Amithlon
    3. SCAMing everybody with fake discount coupons (this club and the Party Pack)
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    If this goes on.. I'd need to purchase this amazing A1+OS4 just to collect my 100USD rebate .. :-o
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    Quote:


    JoannaK wrote:
    If this goes on.. I'd need to purchase this amazing A1+OS4 just to collect my 100USD rebate .. :-o


    You can buy mine! You won't get a T-shirt though, but I can give you the 100USD rebate ... ;-) :-D
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
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    Sure surprised me. :) I have been hoping to one day get a Genesi T-Shirt if they ever run another batch of them. :-D
    Pegasos 1 G3 MorphOS 1.4.5* Mac G4 Sawtooth 1Ghz Tiger 10.4.1* Both Rock! :-D
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    JK

    Should that be /quote Amazing quote/

    :-P

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    I have not yet find right kind of quotes to represent "highlly cynical mood"-
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    yo :-) people do a nice opesource MORPHOS
    let it be fanstastic and i will be ready to
    Design a Pegasos fashion collection ..
    i am fashion Desiger so dont worry :-)
    i would be a AMIGAKILLERSHIRT

    :_)) Maurix
  • »18.01.05 - 07:38
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    ikir
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    >1. Lieing about product development
    When? OS4 release date? in 2001-2002 OS4 project was really different from now

    >2. Deliberate interference in Amithlon
    I don't know

    >3. SCAMing everybody with fake discount coupons (this club and the Party Pack)
    Yes, but not completely true. Clud Amiga include
    1-T-Shirt, now delivered.
    2-CAM, worked fine until Amiga.com freezed... maybe it will be resurrected, buy don't hold your breath.
    3-50$ discount on A1+OS4 (final?).

    Point 3 is the more important, but OS4 final isn't yet released. We'll see, anyway is better than nothing. Remember that KMOS bought Amiga Inc a little ago, and maybe they are only now operative.
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    KMOS has no legal obligation to honour past promotional activities. But, I think we have an ethical one. I'm trying to work out the discount coupon situation and I believe I will

    From the interview http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/index.php?op=r&cat_id=3&rev_id=50&sort_by

    Imho as an A1 users, the most important thing is OS4, and it is rocking.

    [ Edited by ikir on 2005/1/18 13:33 ]
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    >>1. Lieing about product development
    >When? OS4 release date? in 2001-2002 OS4 project was
    >really different from now

    You know and I know at the end of the day that this is just spin, nothing was actually developed when Amiga Inc continued to make the claims. Moving the project to Hyperion enabled the perfect excuse to validate the spin. However, to make it worse...Ben Hermans continued to propagate the spin claiming 'a few more weeks/months' for years. Thankfully he stopped that.

    At the end of the day, this happens in business all the time..so it's fairly easy to forgive/forget this one from the perspective of someone who has worked in the IT industry for 12 years.

    From a users perspective it's the worst kind of misleading - it promotoes unrealistic expectations.

    From a competetitors point of view, this is the worst kind of FUD since it damages potential sales.

    >>2. Deliberate interference in Amithlon
    >I don't know

    I don't have all the facts either but I watched Bill McEwen demo it as an product which would get 'Amiga Inc' seal of approval and then all hell broke loose with H&P....I guess the coders have the full story.

    One thing I missed on the subject of interference was the deliberate FUD about MOS being based on stolen source....

    >>3. SCAMing everybody with fake discount coupons (this club >>and the Party Pack)
    >Yes, but not completely true. Clud Amiga include
    >1-T-Shirt, now delivered.
    >2-CAM, worked fine until Amiga.com freezed... maybe it will
    >be resurrected, buy don't hold your breath.
    >3-50$ discount on A1+OS4 (final?).

    I joined right at the start when terms and conditions were very different. The discount was $50 off an A1 *or* a free copy of OS4. When the club was launched, OS4 was on schedule and rocking. The clarification that we must await end-user release of OS4 was to come much later.

    >Point 3 is the more important, but OS4 final isn't yet released. >We'll see, anyway is better than nothing. Remember that
    >KMOS bought Amiga Inc a little ago, and maybe they are only >now operative.

    C'mon, that's just spin. Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me.

    >Quote:

    >KMOS has no legal obligation to honour past promotional >activities. But, I think we have an ethical one. I'm trying to >work out the discount coupon situation and I believe I will
    >
    >From the interview http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/>index.php?op=r&cat_id=3&rev_id=50&sort_by

    I followed all this in intimate detail, but thanks for the reminder anyway ;-)

    >Imho as an A1 users, the most important thing is OS4, and it
    >is rocking.

    I won't argue with this. I wish the project well and hope that one day the hardware will come down to realistic prices, not jacked up by licensing fees that add no value to the end user.

    I also feel there is very little point in going over old ground - I don't think mis-represented any of the events above.

    My whole point was that Amiga Inc had done far more damage than a $50 T-Shirt should cover up.

    This really has no place on MZ, so this is my last contribution to the thread, pmail me if you feel the need.


    [ Edited by JKD on 2005/1/18 9:41 ]
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    Bifford
    Posts: 276 from 2003/2/24
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    What I like is that fact that Amiga seem to think all of its users are Fat Bar-stewards (Americans? ;-).

    My T-shirt is XL whereas I am only Medium/Large so I shall be swamped in it.

    Oh, and FYI my peg tshirt is still nice and vibrant, not faded much at all ;-)

    TTFN!
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