Time for a MorphOS X5000 bundle?
  • MorphOS Developer
    bigfoot
    Posts: 508 from 2003/4/11
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    Primax wrote:
    Sorry for my stupid question, but what was problem so far?
    I have an X5000 running it with a X1650 Pro. And it works fine with MorphOS as well as OS4.1.
    So, what have been fixed in detail...?


    I wrote a long, detailed reply for you earlier, but then as I was almost done, power went out. So now you're getting the short version instead :D

    Long story short, if you have a single graphics card in the primary (x16) PCI Express slot that works for you in all the operating systems you want to run, then there was no problem. If you're in a situation where you want to use two different graphics cards for two different operating systems, or even just one graphics card in a PCI Express slot that's not the x16 slot, then you're out of luck, at least until MorphOS 3.17 gets released..

    On the MorphOS side, I fixed a few different issues that prevented MorphOS from booting with a graphics card in a non-primary PCI Express slot on the X5000, thus enabling you to, well, boot MorphOS with two graphics cards installed. And no, before anyone asks, using 3 graphics cards in the X5000 won't work with MorphOS :D
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12081 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > using 3 graphics cards in the X5000 won't work with MorphOS :D

    Pity, as that would be the ultimate X5000 multi-boot setup:

    - PCIe x16 slot with GCN-based card for OS4
    - PCIe x4 slot with TeraScale-based card for Linux
    - PCIe x1 slot with R500-based card for MorphOS

    :-)
  • »05.04.22 - 16:40
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    bigfoot wrote:
    Quote:

    cyfm wrote:

    Still, it would be nice to have the software fixed to make it possible (and bigfoot is working on it afaik).


    Since the other relevant thread disappeared in the recent data loss, I can now confirm here that this issue is indeed fixed now, and the fix will be available in MorphOS 3.17.


    This is great news. Good work! :-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »06.04.22 - 21:53
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    zukow
    Posts: 642 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > using 3 graphics cards in the X5000 won't work with MorphOS :D

    Pity, as that would be the ultimate X5000 multi-boot setup:

    - PCIe x16 slot with GCN-based card for OS4
    - PCIe x4 slot with TeraScale-based card for Linux
    - PCIe x1 slot with R500-based card for MorphOS

    :-)


    Too bad no support for Xorro yet. :)
  • »06.04.22 - 22:13
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12081 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> that would be the ultimate X5000 multi-boot setup:
    >>
    >> - PCIe x16 slot with GCN-based card for OS4
    >> - PCIe x4 slot with TeraScale-based card for Linux
    >> - PCIe x1 slot with R500-based card for MorphOS

    > Too bad no support for Xorro yet. :)

    Xena/Xorro is best to be ignored, even with my envisioned setup :-)
  • »06.04.22 - 22:19
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    Skateman
    Posts: 22 from 2020/10/11
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > there is no easy way to put a 2nd x16 PCIe card into an X5000
    > because there is only a single x16 slot

    Indeed. ATI/AMD Fire* PCIe x1 cards may be the easy way to go, then.

    > PCIe Riser [...] leads to other mechanical problems.

    This thread has examples of PCIe x1-to-x16 risers and PCIe x4-to-x16 cables that seem to work well with PCIe x16 graphics cards in the X5000 standard case.

    > it would be nice to have the software fixed to make it possible

    Absolutely.



    Would be great if we can use MorphOS 3.17 on our X5000 without the card swap hussle :-)

    I have been using the X4 to X16 cable now for the graphics cards as you can now see in the second page of the thread you refer to. That cable costs around 25 - 20 euros and the X4 connector fits nicely under the cooling fan of the Primany graphics card.

    https://forum.hyperion-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?p=55237#p55237
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12081 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> This thread has examples of PCIe x1-to-x16 risers and PCIe x4-to-x16 cables
    >> that seem to work well with PCIe x16 graphics cards in the X5000 standard case.

    > I have been using the X4 to X16 cable now for the graphics cards
    > as you can now see in the second page of the thread you refer to.
    > https://forum.hyperion-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?p=55237#p55237

    Yes, that's what I referred to in my comment that I wrote here some hours after you posted those pictures to the Hyperion forum. In fact, the second page was already complete by then ;-)
  • »27.04.22 - 20:18
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  • Butterfly
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    kas1e
    Posts: 97 from 2005/10/31
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    After mos3.17 out, can anyone point me on the tested PCIEx1<->PCIx16 adapter which tested on x5000 and works ?
  • »02.05.22 - 06:12
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    bigfoot
    Posts: 508 from 2003/4/11
    Any adaptor/riser should work. I got this one for testing.
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  • »02.05.22 - 07:55
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    Skateman
    Posts: 22 from 2020/10/11
    Yeah!

    I have the following X5000 setup running

    PCIeX16 slot RX570 for use with AmigaOS4.1
    PcieX4 slot FirePro V3700 Linux / MorphOS

    I have used a PCIe X1 riser and PCIe X4 to X16 cable, and both work perfectly.

    Thanks Morphos Team!!




    [ Edited by Skateman 06.05.2022 - 20:39 ]
  • »03.05.22 - 20:01
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 10 from 2021/3/11
    I am a new X5000 user and would need help
    I was able to install Linux OS4.1 and MorphOS but only if the video card is mounted in the PCI16x slot
    I bought a PCI1x to PCI16x adapter to mount a second graphics card but I have no video output.
    The cards I have tried in the converter are
    Radeo 1950 pro 512 mb memory
    Radeon 6670 1g memory
    but they work great in the PCI16x slot
    to make the converter work I have to change something in the firmware My firmware is dated 2018-10-05
    thank you
    Greetings Gianni
  • »08.05.22 - 14:57
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 10 from 2021/3/11
    Thanks 1000
    Problem solved with MorphOS
    Mounted two monitors instead of one with two inputs
    If I don't disturb a cotesia yet
    With linux I still can't
    I changed the Xorg.conf device from 0 to 1 but I can't change anything
    The sequence I use for booting is the following
    setenv linuxboot
    setenv bootargs dev = / dev / sda2
    load sata 1: 1 1000000 uImage-5.18
    load sata 1: 1 2000000 cyrus-p5020.dtb
    bootm 1000000 - 2000000
    To get the video on the card mounted on the PCIe-1x do I have to add something?
    because this is how only the card mounted on the PCIe-16x works
    greetings Gianni
  • »10.05.22 - 22:21
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    Skateman
    Posts: 22 from 2020/10/11
    Hi,

    For linux i use this Xorg.conf


    Section “Monitor”
    Identifier “Monitor0”
    EndSection

    Section “Device”
    Identifier “Device1”
    Driver “radeon”
    EndSection

    Section “ServerFlags”
    Option “AIGLX” “on”
    EndSection

    Section “Module”
    Load “dri”
    Load “dri2”
    Load “dbe”
    Load “glx”
    Load “type1”
    Load “freetype”
    Load “record”
    EndSection

    Section “DRI”
    Mode 0666
    EndSection

    Section “Extensions”
    Option “Composite” “Enable”
    Option “RENDER” “Enable”
    Option “RANDR” “Enable”
    Option “DAMAGE” “Enable”
    Option “GLX” “Enable”
    EndSection

    Section “Screen”
    Identifier “Screen0”
    Device “Device0”
    Monitor “Monitor0”
    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection “Display”
    Depth 24
    Viewport 0 0
    EndSubSection
    EndSection
  • »11.05.22 - 17:30
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 10 from 2021/3/11
    Thanks
    Problem solved
    I replaced the Radeon HD R7 with a Radeon RX 570 in the PCIe 16X slot
    and everything works
  • »13.05.22 - 20:35
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    Skateman
    Posts: 22 from 2020/10/11
    Good to hear all is working.

    Enjoy!
  • »14.05.22 - 08:43
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 4 from 2022/7/1
    Hello
    I try same configuration dual gpu
    The first gpu for os4 are r9 280 3gb vram
    The second gpu for Mos are 6570

    6570 work om pcie 16x whit or whitout pcie adapatator

    But on pcie 4x or 1x whit r9 280, 6570 are not initialised by MorphOS but Morphos start

    Some body help my ?
  • »01.07.22 - 22:22
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    Skateman
    Posts: 22 from 2020/10/11
    Hi,

    I have tested a few cards myself and work fine with or withouth hardware acceleration depending on the model of the card. For now i am using the RX570 in PCIeX16 slot for AmigaOS and X1950 as second GPU for Linux / MorphOS use.

    I do have a monitor connected on each GPU, and running 3.17 with the latest fix from Bigfoot.

    You could try (if you have one) another card to see if the problem exists..
  • »03.07.22 - 09:30
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 4 from 2022/7/1
    I ave try whit all my gpu !!
    Im wainting from x1950
    The fix are on to the 3.17 or i need to download it ?
  • »03.07.22 - 10:21
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    Skateman
    Posts: 22 from 2020/10/11
    The fix is in 3.17, and should work with the X1950
  • »03.07.22 - 14:16
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 4 from 2022/7/1
    Hello
    I have receved the x1950 and all working dual boot working
    I can bokt the computer whitout monitor conencted to the firest gpu board
  • »25.07.22 - 12:24
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    Skateman
    Posts: 22 from 2020/10/11
    Quote:

    Amigaouf wrote:
    Hello
    I have receved the x1950 and all working dual boot working
    I can bokt the computer whitout monitor conencted to the firest gpu board


    Good to hear all is working.
    Have fun with the setup!
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1914 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    How are you using an X1950 in the X5000? I have one on the way but its an AGP card isnt it? I know it was working in a friends G5 Mac Pro so it cant be PCIE as far as I would remember.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12081 from 2003/5/22
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    > How are you using an X1950 in the X5000? I have one on the way but its
    > an AGP card isnt it? I know it was working in a friends G5 Mac Pro so
    > it cant be PCIE as far as I would remember.

    The ATI/AMD R5xx series GPUs on the Radeon X1xxx series graphics cards are PCIe chipsets. That's what they speak natively. Some graphics card manufacturers put those PCIe chipsets on AGP cards, together with a RIALTO bridge chip (not to be confused with Intel's GPU announced recently) to translate between AGP and PCIe. That's what your friend used in his PowerMac G5, provided it had AGP slots. If it had PCIe slots (PowerMac11,2), he used a PCIe X1950 card without RIALTO chip.
  • »09.08.22 - 22:03
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    Acill
    Posts: 1914 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    The ATI/AMD R5xx series GPUs on the X1xxx series graphics cards are PCIe chipsets. That's what they speak natively. Some graphics card manufacturers put those PCIe chipsets on AGP cards, together with a RIALTO bridge chip (not to be confused with Intel's GPU announced recently) to translate between AGP and PCIe. That's what your friend used in his PowerMac G5, provided it had AGP slots. If it had PCIe slots (PowerMac11,2), he used a PCIe X1950 card without RIALTO chip.


    I am pretty sure my 2.0 G5 is an AGP slot with PCI Express slots. Guess I will be sticking with the G5 when the card he is sending me arrives and have to find another that fits in my X5000.
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