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That's cool, but what's the point in digital download ADF's if it doesn't run without the physical ROM that they aren't selling yet? lol

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I'm assuming the new fancy icons are optional from this line in the PR fluff?

"A colorful, professionally designed icon set is included, along with the traditional four-color icons."

First thing anyone should install after the OS is PeterK's icon.library though. Followed by FBlit, FText and FScreen.

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But the one in question (mine) does. 16MB of ZIP RAM on the mobo. :)

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It seems to be aimed 100% at emulator users and cashing in on the the Vampire. Doesn't even support CybergraphX, apparently.

That's far from the "bugfix release" promised. Hardly surprising Hyperion have clashed with Cloanto - this is most certainly Cloanto's ground.

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The usual shenanigans from Amiga-land then. Quelle surprise!!

MorphOS 68k where are you? lol

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OS ADF's for use in emulators would seem to be stepping on Cloanto's toes.

And I'm not sure they know how to create kickstart ROMs.

More piracy by HYPErion.

Perhaps all users should consider boycotting both companies, until they come to an amicable settlement, fair for both parties? Or, boycott which ever company you disagree with, and support the other, if you think that such actions will resolve the current chaotic situation more quickly.

My personal preference is fairly well known, and has not changed in years, but I don't know of any way to get Hyperion to give up all rights and interest in all things related to the Amiga community, without the hot headed principle ownership partner probably doing something awful and damaging to the community, just out of spite, if he does not get some ridiculous price for selling his legal (and imagined) rights to all things related to our community. As long as there are 2 or 3 Amiga developers who are willing to donate their time supporting Hyperion's pathetic pace of development for AmigaOS4.x, Hyperion will continue to make promises they can't keep, and string along the users with false hopes, and wild dreams.

I wonder what would happen if someone hired those last few developers away from Hyperion, actually paying them for their time and efforts, and if the rest of the remaining Amiga developers refused to work for, or with Hyperion? Well, it's no use thinking of such things, as nothing is likely to change, and ten years from now, we will all still be having the same conversations, and moaning about the terrible lack of progress and updates from Hyperion.

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Just the off screen window dragging.

@KennyR

Stock A3000D came with 1MB Chip and 1MB Fast, 4MB Fast for the T.

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methodology fairly well described here

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Well anyway, the point is that 3.1.4, rather than being a fix and tidy up of old bugs and limitations, seems to be a full scale re-implementation of 3.9 and that many of the design choices in this favour emulator owners and those with high end accelerators like the Vampire.

Fast RAM or not, someone with an unexpanded A3000 or similar classic hw should probably just stick with 3.9 and turn the glowicons off.

Right now, support on classic is about rebooting to install the 3.1.4 ROM in RAM. Not such a problem, as that's what many classic users did anyway, to patch various bugs, increase performance, and so on. But if you were hoping to get away from that in 3.1.4 and go for the more "vanilla" experience, well you aren't. Sorry.

And from the talk so far, it seems a good guess that if you run Cloanto roms and have issues, you're not going to get much support.

Edit: No, it seems they included EPROM images as well so you can burn your own roms. Well, as none of the resellers will sell Hyperion stuff any more...

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> They started from the 3.1 source, incorporated all bugfixes
> which where adressed by BiongBag 1+2 [...]

I hope they didn't incorporate just all bugfixes addressed by BoingBag 1+2 of AmigaOS 3.9, but also the bugfixes incorporated by AmigaOS 3.5, BoingBag 1+2(a) of AmigaOS 3.5, and Amiga OS 3.9 proper :-)

Some of the 3.1.4 changes can be gathered from the FAQ.

On a1k.org there is a thread where it seems parts of the changelog (starting with exec) are relvealed by and by (klick), and another one explaining the incompatibility between Intuition V45 and CyberGFX (klick).

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Thieving bastards!

> I'm not sure they know how to create kickstart ROMs.

Who's "they"?

"a model-specific module disk [...] allows for installation of 3.1.4 together with older V40.x Commodore, AmigaTechnologies or Hyperion ROMs. We didn't test Cloanto ROMs, but they might work."
http://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=73661.msg840390#msg840390

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That shouldn't be a surprise.

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This release on the eve of their court trial is no accident. Looks like a last minute cash grab by a certain Belgium lawyer.

So the developers aren't even getting paid?

And there are still people thinking Cloanto are the parasites...

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As far as I know, this has been some pet project orchestrated by Thomas Richter and Olaf Barthel which is distributed by Hyperion. It might be up to anyone's guess who is going to cash in here ....

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Right. Olaf has plainly stated (excuse if not exact quote) "leaving things in better shape than one finds them"
No one should doubt his motives.

But "guess"?

The only way creditors recoup anything it through Hyperion's survival, afaik. Ergo that is where the money would go. That includes Ben as one of the creditors, as stated prior in this thread.

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> many of the design choices [...] favour emulator owners
> and those with high end accelerators like the Vampire.

Opposed to OS3.9, it also runs on 68000 :-)

Well, if the developers receive no compensation, at least the buyers can take comfort in knowing that their individual payments will continue to financially support a long string of lawsuits, including essential community-focused expenses such as court as well as attorney fees.

@number6

I really think that some people should have known better...