A look at the new MorphOS
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    takemehomegrandma
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    Jim wrote:

    So...when do WE get 3.10?


    ”One of the team did let me know that they are looking at releasing this on the X5000 towards the end of this year.”

    https://amigax5000.blog/2017/10/29/amiga-32/
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
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    Jim wrote:

    So...when do WE get 3.10?


    ”One of the team did let me know that they are looking at releasing this on the X5000 towards the end of this year.”

    https://amigax5000.blog/2017/10/29/amiga-32/


    Cool. thanks for the reference.
    And for my part, sorry about the previous friction, I'm a bit reactionary.

    @ Andre, that new look has kind of grown on me, but I must admit that when it comes to Windows, I think Vista and Win 7 looked much better than Win 10.

    I'd look to see MorphOS adopt that direction rather than the minimalist look, transparency, gradients in shading, lots of color, complex background (and one of the few feature I like from OS4 - the animated backgrounds provided by Candi).
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
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    Jim wrote:

    So...when do WE get 3.10?


    ”One of the team did let me know that they are looking at releasing this on the X5000 towards the end of this year.”

    https://amigax5000.blog/2017/10/29/amiga-32/


    Cool. thanks for the reference.
    And for my part, sorry about the previous friction, I'm a bit reactionary.

    @ Andre, that new look has kind of grown on me, but I must admit that when it comes to Windows, I think Vista and Win 7 looked much better than Win 10.

    I'd look to see MorphOS adopt that direction rather than the minimalist look, transparency, gradients in shading, lots of color, complex background (and one of the few feature I like from OS4 - the animated backgrounds provided by Candi).


    The good thing is that it is about choice. I doubt that MorphOS 3.10 with _my_ favourite Clara Skin will look much different from MorphOS 3.9 with the Clara skin.
    I mean that's the benefit from a good skinning system.
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    Fantastic! I am really looking forward to this.
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    > I'd just prefer MorphOS not to offer just that one option of "simplified design",
    > as I quite like the [...] look and feel of 3.9 so if that 'look' can be retained after
    > the update to 3.10 then I'd be happier

    I see no reason to believe that the skins that have been offered up to and including MorphOS 3.9 will be missing in MorphOS 3.10. Or was any of them created by tokai?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Cant wait for this to be released! The beta on my X5000 was fantastic to use during Amiwest. I will be keeping my G5 as well for it I think, just much easier to boot into a single machine and not worry about corruption from the other OS reading the drives.
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    Quick question: are new PPC computers (Macs & others), other than the X5000, being added to the list of supported PC's that can run MorphOS 3.10? Is still the PowerMac G5 the highest spec PC for MorphOS
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    WeiXing3D wrote:
    Quick question: are new PPC computers (Macs & others), other than the X5000, being added to the list of supported PC's that can run MorphOS 3.10? Is still the PowerMac G5 the highest spec PC for MorphOS


    Most probably - none, so yes, G5 DP 2,7 will still be the highest spec PC (although I suppose X5000 would beat it in gfx card comparisons).
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    WeiXing3D wrote:
    Quick question: are new PPC computers (Macs & others), other than the X5000, being added to the list of supported PC's that can run MorphOS 3.10? Is still the PowerMac G5 the highest spec PC for MorphOS


    Right now, the only new support that has been announced is the X5000.
    Apparently there isn't sufficient support for a port to the 11,2 PCI-E G5s, so the most powerful CPUs would still be the 2.3, 2.5, and 2.7 GHz dual G5 AGP systems.
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > the most powerful CPUs would still be the 2.3, 2.5, and 2.7 GHz dual G5 AGP systems.

    The X5000/20 beats my 2.3 GHz PowerMac G5 in non-SIMD integer operations.

    http://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=11137&start=603


    Looks like we are down to the water cooled models then.
    And a probable superiority in SIMD and FPU instruction performance. ;-)
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    not a fan of the new design/skin, looks too much like older Android design
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    And a probable superiority in SIMD and FPU instruction performanc

    in smp fpu my 1x970MP is like the 4x5040
    blender bench 42 second on 4T 5040, 23 on 4T 970MP ... plus no altivec


    [ Edited by tlosmx 07.11.2017 - 18:14 ]
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    tlosmx wrote:
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    And a probable superiority in SIMD and FPU instruction performanc

    in smp fpu my 1x970MP is like the 4x5040
    blender bench 42 second on 4T 5040, 23 on 4T 970MP ... plus no altivec




    That doesn't surprise me. Even without using those instructions that part of the 970MP is fairly powerful.
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    tlosmx wrote:
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    And a probable superiority in SIMD and FPU instruction performanc

    in smp fpu my 1x970MP is like the 4x5040
    blender bench 42 second on 4T 5040, 23 on 4T 970MP ... plus no altivec



    One 970MP chip has two cores, each core has 2x FPU’s, so a total of 4 FPU’s per chip. Same number of FPU’s as in your 5040. In a quad configuration, the 970MP system has 8 FPU’s, twice the numbers of the 5040 system.

    Edit: BTW, IMHO there is little practical point in comparing non-SIMD performance, since the 970 *does* have Altivec. The quad 970MP has four of them. Blender would love to use them... ;-)
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    > IMHO there is little practical point in comparing non-SIMD performance,
    > since the 970 *does* have Altivec.

    Most tasks can‘t be vectorized, so comparing CPUs by their non-SIMD performance does make sense.
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    Am I the only one that can't see the link in OWB?
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    Furvert wrote:

    Am I the only one that can't see the link in OWB?


    Yes.

    But, to be certain, could you specify which link and what OWB are you talking about?
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Love to see this running on my G5, the new skin looks cool.
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    koszer wrote:
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    Furvert wrote:

    Am I the only one that can't see the link in OWB?


    Yes.

    But, to be certain, could you specify which link and what OWB are you talking about?


    No, the link in the first post of this thread doesn't work here either with OWB.. or to be more precise, it doesn't work with the default settings, but it does work if I spoof OWB as some other browser. If I don't spoof, Google+ page tells me that my browser isn't supported. Spoofing as Safari or any other browser makes it work and the image can be displayed then.
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    koszer wrote:
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    Furvert wrote:

    Am I the only one that can't see the link in OWB?


    Yes.

    But, to be certain, could you specify which link and what OWB are you talking about?


    Oops The link that started this entire post:

    https://plus.google.com/photos/115515624056477014971/album/6481995654173315025/6481995654218114802?authkey=CLe83ZTZh_vgfw

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    The error I get is:

    "Your browser is not supported by Google+. You may have an outdated browser version or an unsupported browser type."
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    Is there any planned support for iMac G5 computers? I have one here on my desk (I'm actually writing this post on it) and they're great and stylish computers that can be picked up for little to no money. And I think many of them came with Radeon 9600 cards.

    Would be awesome to have MorphOS running on it. Stylish computer, stylish OS :)
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    > Is there any planned support for iMac G5 computers?

    See this thread for reference.
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    Thanks for the link, Andreas Wolf. After reading the thread I'm not much smarter though. Except the fact that people are aware of the demand there might or might not be support. Well, let's see what the future brings. Still the iMac G5s have lots of power for every day use. Would make a great desk computer for the family to use.

    [ Edited by Chefsessel 05.01.2018 - 14:20 ]
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    The only model ever shown working is the PowerMac12.1 aka "iSight" running at 2.1GHz.
    These all come with Radeon600XT while Radeon9600 would suggest the 2.0GHz "Ambient Light Sensor" 8.2.

    The iSight shares a lot of HW with the PCIe tower G5s, so there is still a small chance of getting supported at some time.

    The main issue I have (at least with my iSight-iMac) is that the screen just isn't that good, so I'm not sure I'd bother registering it if that ever is an option.
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