WARNING: aeros-os.org and insecure credit card payment
  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24
    From: finland, the l...
    Hello,

    Since this software is also offered to MorphOS users, I'm posting a warning here.

    If you've bought a subscription by using the aeros-os.org website, your credit card details may have been stolen. The aeros-os.org website is missing HTTPS and anyone intercepting the traffic to the website could have stolen your CC details, including the CVV number.

    If you haven't yet entered your CC details to the site but plan to:
    - Don't enter the details until the web site has been fixed (it is hosted over HTTPS)

    If you already used your credit card there, I suggest the following:
    - Check your CC details for any suspicious activity
    - Use your bank website to set CC usage limits (say limit it to your country only)
    - I'd highly recommend contacting your bank and tell them your CC details may have been exposed and ask them for a new CC
  • »26.03.16 - 10:14
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Thank you Piru!
    https: should work in a few minutes.. hopefully
    https://aeros-os.org

    As a side note:
    Nobody entered something : )

    EDIT:
    The stripe PlugIN for my non HTTPS website uses TLS for communication anyway..
    I doesn't rely on the website where it is embedded to.

    EDIT2:
    Meanwhile the pages are gone until TLS is running.


    [ Edited by phoenixkonsole 26.03.2016 - 11:55 ]
  • »26.03.16 - 10:35
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:
    Thank you Piru!
    https: should work in a few minutes.. hopefully
    https://aeros-os.org

    As a side note:
    Nobody entered something : )

    EDIT:
    The stripe PlugIN for my non HTTPS website uses TLS for communication anyway..
    I doesn't rely on the website where it is embedded to.

    EDIT2:
    Meanwhile the pages are gone until TLS is running.



    I bought this a couple of weeks ago it still hasn't arrived. If my card details have been stolen I will not be happy at all!
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  • »26.03.16 - 11:06
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    He is talking about the subscription.
    Nobody has ordered a subscription using "stripe".


    [ Edited by phoenixkonsole 26.03.2016 - 12:32 ]
  • »26.03.16 - 11:29
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    @phoenixkonsole

    https://letsencrypt.org/

    Completely free, no need for dedicated IP, works like a charm.

    All websites should be encrypted today!
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »26.03.16 - 11:32
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24
    From: finland, the l...
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:

    The stripe PlugIN for my non HTTPS website uses TLS for communication anyway..
    I doesn't rely on the website where it is embedded to.

    This is incorrect. Without HTTPS anyone can intercept & tamper with the html / javascript which is asking for the CC information, before the information is posted to the Stripe site.

    HTTPS is mandatory for a secure payment site.
  • »26.03.16 - 11:33
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    @Piru
    Yep got it so I removed it from aeros-os.org as long TLS is not working.

    @takemehomegrandma
    Thanks I will check it out
    EDIT: Looks indeed nice : )
    It is still beta.. what does it mean? Could it do any harm?

    [ Edited by phoenixkonsole 26.03.2016 - 12:40 ]
  • »26.03.16 - 11:38
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    @Intuition

    Oh.. I have missed the "hasn't arrived yet" part..
    Can you please send me an email or pm, I can't identify you by your nickname.
    I can check trackingnumbers

    [ Edited by phoenixkonsole 26.03.2016 - 12:44 ]
  • »26.03.16 - 11:42
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    @all
    TLS is up now
    https://aeros-os.org

    If you type just aeros-os.org or www.aeros-os.org your will find it without TLS.
    But even than it will switch to TLS as soon you click on the Subscription page.


    [ Edited by phoenixkonsole 26.03.2016 - 13:19 ]
  • »26.03.16 - 12:03
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:
    @Intuition

    Oh.. I have missed the "hasn't arrived yet" part..
    Can you please send me an email or pm, I can't identify you by your nickname.
    I can check trackingnumbers


    Just sent you an email. Thanks.
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  • »26.03.16 - 12:25
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    You are welcome,
    i have send you the Tracking number. Maybe you need to kick your neighbors ass ; )
  • »26.03.16 - 12:30
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:

    @takemehomegrandma
    Thanks I will check it out
    EDIT: Looks indeed nice : )
    It is still beta.. what does it mean? Could it do any harm?

    Power2People.org has been using it ever since the public beta was opened a few months back. MorphZone would be using it too if it did not already have a paid-for multi-year certificate.

    For security reasons, they require certificates to be renewed every 90 days. The client is not yet capable of doing so automatically, which is one reason why this is still carrying the beta label I presume. That said, setting up a cron job should not be too difficult.
  • »26.03.16 - 16:42
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:
    You are welcome,
    i have send you the Tracking number. Maybe you need to kick your neighbors ass ; )


    It's looking like the postman has stolen it but I can't do anything about it until Tuesday due to the Easter holidays. :/
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

    2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
  • »26.03.16 - 16:58
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Quote:

    ASiegel wrote:
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:

    @takemehomegrandma
    Thanks I will check it out
    EDIT: Looks indeed nice : )
    It is still beta.. what does it mean? Could it do any harm?

    Power2People.org has been using it ever since the public beta was opened a few months back. MorphZone would be using it too if it did not already have a paid-for multi-year certificate.

    For security reasons, they require certificates to be renewed every 90 days. The client is not yet capable of doing so automatically, which is one reason why this is still carrying the beta label I presume. That said, setting up a cron job should not be too difficult.



    Thank you! I will use it for all other pages and future projects

    @Intuition
    Yep, I am sorry about this. I cross my fingers.
    I had one case where the postman has given a smartphone 4 house down the road...Nobody came to me - I had to find it in the hands of a 7years old child : )
  • »26.03.16 - 17:34
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24
    From: finland, the l...
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:
    @all
    TLS is up now
    https://aeros-os.org


    It's broken if you use https://www.aeros-os.org

    Quote:

    If you type just aeros-os.org or www.aeros-os.org your will find it without TLS.
    But even than it will switch to TLS as soon you click on the Subscription page.


    You should always redirect to HTTPS when the page is entered.

    Since you now use HSTS this will ensure that the user will automatically use HTTPS in the future, regardless if the https:// is entered in the URL or not.

    [ Edited by Piru 26.03.2016 - 22:27 ]
  • »26.03.16 - 19:17
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:
    Quote:

    ASiegel wrote:
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:

    @takemehomegrandma
    Thanks I will check it out
    EDIT: Looks indeed nice : )
    It is still beta.. what does it mean? Could it do any harm?

    Power2People.org has been using it ever since the public beta was opened a few months back. MorphZone would be using it too if it did not already have a paid-for multi-year certificate.

    For security reasons, they require certificates to be renewed every 90 days. The client is not yet capable of doing so automatically, which is one reason why this is still carrying the beta label I presume. That said, setting up a cron job should not be too difficult.



    Thank you! I will use it for all other pages and future projects

    @Intuition
    Yep, I am sorry about this. I cross my fingers.
    I had one case where the postman has given a smartphone 4 house down the road...Nobody came to me - I had to find it in the hands of a 7years old child : )



    It's only a relatively small amount of money but it's the principle of it that matters. There is always someone at home in our house 24/7 so either the postman has delivered it to the wrong house by accident or he's stolen it. Based on the standards of service since Royal Mail was privatised I wouldn't bet against it being the latter.
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  • »26.03.16 - 19:36
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Quote:

    Piru wrote:
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:
    @all
    TLS is up now
    https://aeros-os.org


    It's broken if you use https://www.aeros-os.org

    Quote:

    If you type just aeros-os.org or www.aeros-os.org your will find it without TLS.
    But even than it will switch to TLS as soon you click on the Subscription page.


    You should always redirect to HTTPS when the page is entered.

    Since you now use HSTS this will ensure that the user will automatically use HTTPS in the future, regardless if the https:// is entered in the URL or not.


    Ok I have changed this... it should now redirect http to https ... at least in some minutes...
  • »26.03.16 - 19:53
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24
    From: finland, the l...
    Ok, much better.

    Now as a final touch go through the resources being loaded by the site and make sure they get loaded over HTTPS, too. This makes sure that the resources actually load (modern browsers refuse to load external resources over HTTP if the site is HTTPS). You also might get warnings from the browser if you have mixed content.
  • »26.03.16 - 20:39
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Thank you, will do this.. at a quick glimpse it should be the case.
  • »26.03.16 - 20:42
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