Amicloud Kickstarter??
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    Huh?

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/681890174/quantahome-quantum-computing-for-raspberry-pi?ref=category_popular
  • »21.07.15 - 12:24
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    The organizer stated on AmigaWorld that he only spent a few minutes on writing the project description, which should both explain its level of coherence and provide some insight regarding how serious the entire project is meant to be taken.

    Several individuals have tried to help improve the project description before it was launched but their comments had no effect.
  • »21.07.15 - 12:56
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Krashan
    Posts: 1107 from 2003/6/11
    From: Białystok...
    Pascal Papara is behind this project. Operate with extreme caution.
  • »21.07.15 - 15:19
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    TheMagicM
    Posts: 1220 from 2003/6/17
    I'd rather ownCloud client be ported to MorphOS.
  • »23.07.15 - 01:19
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
    From: Stockholm, Sweden
    I don't trust cloud services at all anymore. They change their deals, break down, go out of business and so on. I use several external HDDs instead.
    AMIGA FORUM - Hela Sveriges Amigatidning!
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  • »23.07.15 - 12:03
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    @ASiegel,
    not entirely true- I listen and learn.
    The KS campaign wasn't meant to be successful. It is a low-cost PR-campaign with a 20%-discount offer for those interested in such things.

    I didn't spend yet a penny for promoting it. Maybe this would be enough to raise it a little.. but no. I believe when the service is "just" there it will work without bla bla and advertising.

    Suggestions such as changing the type of company and names are on my list (quanta functionality will be just offered via AmiCloud).
    Tomorrow I will decide after a final phone call in which country the new company will be started. In the moment the following are on the table:
    uk, greece, cyprus, malta and estonia
    Reason is that I wan't to offer consumer loans also and those countries offer a banking license for moderate amount of money.
    My favorite one is Greece... 2nd is Estonia because of the moderate regulations.


    [ Edited by phoenixkonsole 26.07.2015 - 12:28 ]
  • »26.07.15 - 12:26
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  • Moderator
    Kronos
    Posts: 2325 from 2003/2/24
    "It is a low-cost PR-campaign"

    Ah the old "any PR is good PR" nonsense.......
  • »26.07.15 - 12:33
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Not directly...
    it is more like a pre-ordering page where you get your money back and than can buy the final result with a 20% off. (or one of the rewards with a 20% off)

    [ Edited by phoenixkonsole 26.07.2015 - 12:43 ]
  • »26.07.15 - 12:40
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    eliyahu
    Posts: 67 from 2011/4/21
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:

    Reason is that I wan't to offer consumer loans also and those countries offer a banking license for moderate amount of money.
    My favorite one is Greece... 2nd is Estonia because of the moderate regulations.

    now you're going into banking? in greece?! how many 'projects' do you have at the moment?

    -- eliyahu
  • »26.07.15 - 14:11
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Quote:

    eliyahu wrote:
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:

    Reason is that I wan't to offer consumer loans also and those countries offer a banking license for moderate amount of money.
    My favorite one is Greece... 2nd is Estonia because of the moderate regulations.

    now you're going into banking? in greece?! how many 'projects' do you have at the moment?

    -- eliyahu



    This is all basically one project : )
    I lost trust in governments and banks starting in 2009.
    From that Point i heavely focused on P2P.
    For me a Bank should offer accounts and protection(insurance) of money like in the Wild West days.
    But they should not be the one who decide if a country gets insolvent and they should not be allowed to close and keep you away from your money.

    P2p is the way to go. Win /win for both parties and no single entity which holds all the power.

    Amiga related and running projects (means someone really is working on it right now, the list is longer):
    Ignite (launchpad clone which extends the functionality of the original)
    Amicloud (remaining bug is identified)
    Indiego AppStore website
    Indiecoin website (buy, sell, earn by referrals)
    Peerschweinchen (a p2p website to invest in projects instead of just donating)
    Ssl plugin for Hollywood
    ..... And those released as alpha already


    Amiga unrelated:
    Peerschweinchen KI (peer - piggybank AI invests automatically money on European p2p platforms)
    -> banking license required
  • »26.07.15 - 17:10
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    Quote:

    phoenixkonsole wrote:
    @ASiegel,
    not entirely true- I listen and learn.

    My comment specifically referred to the Kickstarter project and its description, as brought up by redrumloa.

    Quote:

    The KS campaign wasn't meant to be successful. It is a low-cost PR-campaign with a 20%-discount offer for those interested in such things.

    Is there a measurable amount of positive attention that can be gained from a starkly failed attempt at raising funds on IndieGogo or Kickstarter? (Honest question.)

    Quote:

    Tomorrow I will decide after a final phone call in which country the new company will be started. In the moment the following are on the table:
    uk, greece, cyprus, malta and estonia
    Reason is that I wan't to offer consumer loans also and those countries offer a banking license for moderate amount of money.
    My favorite one is Greece... 2nd is Estonia because of the moderate regulations.


    Good luck with that. Running your own bank sounds like a pretty interesting thing to scratch of one´s bucket list.

    Quote:

    [banks] should not be the one who decide if a country gets insolvent and they should not be allowed to close and keep you away from your money.

    Banks did not decide that Greece was bankrupt. Also, the reason why they had to temporarily close is that they were de-facto bankrupt themselves and were only kept afloat via outside loans from the ECB.

    In the Wild Wild West that you referenced, banks would not merely have closed temporarily but closed for good and its customers would have lost all or at least parts of their savings. (Proper deposit insurance is a relatively recent invention compared to the Wild West days.)
  • »26.07.15 - 17:55
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    The kickstarter went ok so far. I had a boost in Downloads and Sales and some People donated to the campaign.
    Also positive if you take out the dubios offerings are the PR agencies contacting you.
    Well 2 of 100 are serios agencies : )
  • »26.07.15 - 20:55
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Tomorrow our last teammember ends his vacation and can directly work on another bug we found after fixing another big in the client : )
    from next week the work on the website will start.

    So basic functionality is already done and will be released soon.

    Posted also on amigaworld.net:

    The first release will offer only basic functions like:
    1. Defining a sync folder which will be synced between your Computers/Cloud
    2. Sharing public links which can be downloaded via webrowser
    We will start with 1GB space per user in the basic account. (beta users will get 2GB when we finish the testing phase, or the double amount of normal accounts if it will be raised)
    As promised there will be no bandwidth limit for your shared files.
    Basic account will cost a "one-time" 5€ with no monthly fee.
    But I must tell:
    For each platform you like to get the client you will need to pay 5€.

    Means:
    If you buy the AmigaOS 4 client, you can install it on as many AmigaOS machines you like.

    But if you like to sync your AmigaOS4 machines with your Windows machines, you will need to pay another 5€ for the Windows client. Than you are free to install it on as many Windows machines you like as well.

    A pro account with 10GB will follow but it will cost 50€/year (also unlimited bandwidth)
    Price will not rise if you stay from the beginning. It may change for later registrations.
    Whatever the Pro account will need a bit more work and I would like to offer also features like Virtual Machines.

    So there will be a pool and you can try to get acces to a VM. The client will tell the server "Hey I need a VM with the following OS", the server will start a new VM with a Image containing the OS of choice". The client will run your VNC/RDP client to access the VM. Inside the VM you can store files in your AmiCloud space.
    This is needed because the server will delete the "used" VM after you logout and creates a new "clean" one next time you log in.

    On Amiganoids we will offer those via RDP or VNC... we will see what works better. On Windows/Mac/Linux we will use Moonlight(former limelight).

    Time goes by and space will get less expensive... so it is very likely that we will double the space sooner than later.

    *
    Maybe interesting for programmers:
    We can provide API-access so you can make use of it in your own apps.
    Same is valid for the indieGO!-Store...

    BTW: To make things simpler the cloud will use the indieGO!-ID so on Broadway and AEROS you will just need to enter you ID to activate such elements... (soon and only if you bought them ; ))
  • »11.08.15 - 20:27
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    I have shared this already so you may know it, but in case you missed it and are interested how "spectacular" AmiCloud can be.... here we go:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=80&v=nmM1j9elXPQ

    : D

    Please don't watch it if you have problems with blood pressure... it may blow your mind ...

    Have a nice weekend with your favorite Computer sun and beer.

    AmigaOS4, MorphOS, AROS, Windows, OSX, Linux is how we plan to release it...
    With roughly 3-4 weeks in between them because we would like to concentrate a little on platform dependend Problems... if no Problems occur we will release them a bit sooner.
  • »21.08.15 - 18:11
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    The MorphOS build is available now as well (indieGO!-Appstore).
    Some bought already the dummy entry.. just "redownload" it again to get the real beta archive.

    Have a nice sunday
  • »18.10.15 - 13:56
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    tolkien
    Posts: 523 from 2013/5/29
    I have downloaded appstore for morphos to can use amicloud.
    I started the store, accept the conditions and then a black window (AppStore Alpha v0002(build 16.03.2015) appears and nothing else!
    MorphOS: PowerMac G5 - PowerBook G4 - MacMini.
    Classic: Amiga 1200/060 - A500 PiStorm
  • »18.10.15 - 14:48
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Ahh.. my fault! Here is a new archive which should work:
    http://aeros-os.org/guistore/MorphOS.zip
  • »18.10.15 - 17:02
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    tolkien
    Posts: 523 from 2013/5/29
    Now works ok! Time to try AmiCloud.
    MorphOS: PowerMac G5 - PowerBook G4 - MacMini.
    Classic: Amiga 1200/060 - A500 PiStorm
  • »18.10.15 - 18:24
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Glad : )
    Please keep me informed if it works.
  • »18.10.15 - 18:44
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    tolkien
    Posts: 523 from 2013/5/29
    Well. I have downloaded, installled and entering id and password.
    When try to start it showns the following msg:
    Table field "clientid" was not initalized!
    File: AmiCloud.hws (current line: 560 - in function: gadlogin)
    Perhaps a bad login ID. I'm doing It in a bad moment.


    EDIT: Its OK! Was my fault sorry!!!!


    [ Editado por tolkien 18.10.2015 - 20:00 ]
    MorphOS: PowerMac G5 - PowerBook G4 - MacMini.
    Classic: Amiga 1200/060 - A500 PiStorm
  • »18.10.15 - 18:50
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    No problemo : )
  • »18.10.15 - 19:01
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Hi,
    the support forum can be found here:
    www.a-mc.biz/support

    PS:
    The storage size is now 1.5GB
  • »03.11.15 - 21:18
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Hi,
    tomorrow the Price will be raised to 10€ and the storage to 2GB.
    Today it costs still 5€...
    OS X Version (PPC and Intel) will follow tomorrow.
  • »30.11.15 - 14:28
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    Meanwhile the storage for beta users was raised to 5GB.

    We are now offering a subscription for AmiCloud Pro and AEROS for Pi
    The price is 5€/month (credit card only handled by stripe.com)

    What you get now is:
    5GB traffic free storage
    Access to all AmiCloud clients for all systems
    Access to AEROS Plus for the Raspberry Pi family
    After 12 month a free upgrade to AEROS Premium (including free shipping)

    Starting July 2016 the storage will be raised to 25GB for Pro users.

    www.amicloud.de (check the subscription) or www.aeros-os.org

    Subscription can be canceled at any point (in case of the 50€/year deal, we would refund you the partially unused amount )

    If you cancel the subscription you can still use be basic functionality with 5 gb storage.

    If you skip the free sd-card shipping, you can save the credits and get 12 month later a raspberry pi 3 or similar priced arm sons.
  • »13.03.16 - 08:35
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    phoenixkonsole
    Posts: 140 from 2010/8/4
    BAM! All beta testers who have uploaded anything until this coming friday will get 25GB storage for free.. Yep

    Everyone who did already should have it already.
  • »27.06.16 - 18:56
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