Well, that is over. It did not go as smoothly as I had hoped. I was fighting with the projector resolution limitation and did not have the time or expertise to fix it quickly enough before my time to present.

That is why it started late and I was not as focused as I wanted to be.

That is the kind of presentation you get when you send handicap (mentally?) to do your demonstrations in front of the Amiga public.

You didn't really expect me to put on a suit like Trevor, did you?

Edit: Acill really wanted to be here, but when you are in the military, you can't just show up when you want to.

[ Edited by amigadave 23.10.2011 - 13:50 ]

I wasnt watching it but according to comments at #amigaworld it was good.

Dunno what kind of suits Trevor is wearing but I prefer just using some old 10 years old casuals :)

@amigadave

I watched the stream and thought you did well. Great that you could demo MorphOS on the powerbooks as well.

Amigadave,
you have my respect for getting up there in the first place. I can confidently deliver a presentation if I've written it and know the content, but getting up there with no script takes some guts.
I think you handled yourself well - your initial speech worked really well: the background babble fell silent when you made your 'confession,' and everyone paid attention thereafter.

Respects



Rich

@amigadave

Thank you very much. I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Everyone was attentive as indicated.

#6

Update:

> That would also explain the contradiction between Hermans claiming "hardware
> development is [...] 100% completed" and HJF only mentioning "prototypes"

Hermans' explanation:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34459&forum=33&start=140#633989

Velcro_SP
IMO Acill should've showed up. "Couldn't get off work" is an okay excuse, but kind of last minute.
Quote:

Hey now I was pissed when I was told last minute that my leave was pulled. Im still in the Navy and don't have a lot of control over a lot of things being on a ship again. Trust me if I could have gone I would have. I made plans to be there but my Department head got my CO to buy off on the idea that I was the only one that could go to this stupid force protection school, and the pisser was It was a standby seat that didn't let me in after all!

Acill, ah, okay I understand. Yeah, you couldn't have controlled that. Work is the priority, always. Excuse me, I shouldn't have criticized.

Quote:

Hey! That was not a suit but a 10 year old blazer jacket!

TrevorD

Thanks boot_wb,

I had a speech written out on Google Docs in front of me, but went off track often. I was hoping that I could do a much better presentation, but as usual, I did not have the time I wanted to perfect the demonstration and have it ready. The projector monitor problem threw me off balance and I got a little rattled and forgot to show a couple of things. Then I was out of time, as they needed to prepare for the following presenter.

Edit: Trevor always looks sharp at the show, but I somehow get the feeling that he would much rather be dressed more casual and have a beer in his hand while he is doing his presentations. It was great talking with you again Trevor. Good luck with all of your present and future plans.

[ Edited by amigadave 24.10.2011 - 21:51 ]

Thanks Amigadave for being overthere!

Hi,

Is the video available somewhere?

Thanks
Kamel

Huge thanks to Pampers for designing a killer poster and helping me to pay for half of the almost $100 to have it printed. To Eliyahu for donating a large amount toward the table rentals at the show and also to Timothy Deters of AROS for also donating toward the table rentals.

I really appreciate all of the help. It makes me feel like I am not alone at the show. I got to meet Eliyahu at the show and thank him in person, plus we had a good discussion regarding the pros and cons of using MorphOS compared to AmigaOS4, as he is an OS4 guy, which makes it even more amazing that he would donate so much toward seeing MorphOS represented at the AmiWest 2011 Show.

I am sure there will be some videos posted to the Internet for all of you to see of the show, if they are not already available. Also, there should be pictures already up to view. I took one picture and my camera battery died, so I don't have much to show anyone, but I did not worry about taking more pictures because I knew that many other people were taking lots of pictures during the entire show.

The dinner after the show on Sunday evening was fun with about 22 people attending at a local restaurant. It is probably one of the best parts of the whole show experience. Thanks to Trevor for buying the first round of drinks for everyone. No matter how you feel about OS4, or the X1000 project, there is no denying that Trevor is just a great Amiga using guy who is fun to hang out with. The fact that he has been willing to spend a large sum of money in pursuit of his own personal Amiga dreams does not change who he is personally and in fact, it makes me like him even more. I might have done a couple of things differently if I had been in his shoes, but I don't blame him for any of his decisions, as I truly believe he did the best he could with the information he was given and has completed a task that many did not think was even possible at a price that is astonishing compared to what would have been spent in a "typical" corporate environment. My hat is off to him and if I had the money to spare, I would buy an X1000 in an instant, just as a collector item. I took 5 minutes out of my busy show schedule to go look at the X1000 in operation while Trevor was using it and he gave up his seat to let me have a go at it. I ran a few programs on it and had a look at both OWB and the latest Timberwolf build, and must say that the X1000 ran very snappy. I still prefer MorphOS and firmly believe that it still has an edge above and beyond OS4, but I think that OS4 is catching up and the X1000 is a huge step in that process. Hopefully for us MorphOS users the MorphOS Dev. Team will keep MorphOS out in front of AmigaOS4 in performance and features, but I don't say this in an anti-OS4 way, only that I hope that the MorphOS system continues to improve at a good pace to keep us ahead, not that I want OS4 to stay behind. I think that both systems are good now and can be used for most uses that people have for computer systems.

I had meetings all day yesterday, so I did not make it home from the AmiWest Show drive until around 8pm Monday night with almost no sleep. I think starting on Thursday night to the time I got home finally, I probably had an average of 3 hours of sleep each night, so I slept late today. The good news is that I think my meetings were a huge success and I may have some work to do for the next 6 to 9 months which will keep me and my co-workers busy. That is good news, considering how slow construction is these days (not that I can do the actual work myself anymore).

Sorry for the long message.

Big thanks Dave for being on your own and still keeping the MorphOS alive even in States surrounded by OS4 fans ;)

I'd love to go for next AmiWest as a company if your offer for a b&b is not expired ;)

pampers,
Quote:
really enjoyed meeting dave and having the opportunity to try out MOS on his powerbook -- which i have to say is very, very impressive. i'm not sure why, but the few amigans i've met outside of amiwest here in the states tend to be either classic users (via original amigas or emulation) or OS4, but i've never met anyone but dave that uses MOS. i'm not sure why that is, but it seems MOS is much more popular in europe, with an especially big presence in france and germany. i'm sure that once MOS v3.0 ships, with its support for powerbooks, you'll see a big increase in interest.

in any event if you can make it all the way out there, that would be terrific. i'd love to see amiwest continue to grow, and the more opportunities amigans have to meet face-to-face, the better and more civil our community becomes. plus it will ensure amiwest isn't just about classics and OS4; i think it's important MOS and AROS have a presence there since they are both vital components in the wider amiga world.

-- eliyahu



[ Edited by eliyahu 25.10.2011 - 17:26 ]

>i'm not sure why, but the few amigans i've met outside of amiwest here in the states tend to be either classic users (via original amigas or emulation) or OS4, but i've never met anyone but dave that uses MOS.

There are a few of us on the East coast (including one other user in my home State).
Who know why anyone would favor AOS4?

Thanks for that Dave. It was also good to meet up with you again. I will be trying to track down an Apple Powerbook in NZ for MorphOS 3.0 when it is released (based on the info you supplied).

TrevorD

Edit: Corrected from HP to Apple



[ Edited by TrevorDick 26.10.2011 - 11:07 ]

*Apple* Powerbook, not HP Powerbook.

Thanks, of course I meant Apple. Duh! Put It down to jet lag, just arrived back in NZ today. Edited the original post.

TrevorD

[ Edited by TrevorDick 26.10.2011 - 11:08 ]

@Pampers,

If I have not moved out of where I am now by next October, you are welcome to come stay at my house. Just let me know at least a month in advance. I am considering moving closer to where my oldest Son and Grandson live, but who knows if that will happen or not.

If I do move, I may still be able to offer a place to stay before, during or after next year's AmiWest Show. I am also thinking that for next year's AmiWest Show I would not drive to Sacramento, but fly instead and take only my G4 PowerBook and maybe my G4 MacMini, if I can arrange to get the use of a LCD monitor and keyboard from someone who lives closer to Sacramento and will bring it to the show. If not, I will only have my PowerBook and may just attend the show as a spectator, not a exhibitor. I would like to relax and just enjoy the show for a change, as I have been an exhibitor for the last 4 years and I am always too busy during the show to enjoy it as much as I would like.

[ Edited by amigadave 26.10.2011 - 15:45 ]

For pictures and video of the AmiWest 2011 Show, you can check the thread here:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34453&forum=16

> Is the video available somewhere?

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=666625

Direct link:
http://a19.video4.blip.tv/2380000154994/RobertBernardo-MorrisTalksMorphOSAtAmiwest2011701.mp4

Update:

> That's assuming the announced OS4 netbook is really based on the LimeBook of course.

In April, it has been publicly (albeit apparently unnoticed by most) revealed by A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson (i.e. remarkably not by Hyperion) that Hyperion's OS4 netbook was indeed supposed to be the LimeBook (surprise, surprise), and that the project has been cancelled in the meantime because the end user price of the netbook would have ended up at about 750 USD instead of the projected maximum of 500 USD.

"We have reviewed the LimeBook as a possible AmigaOS Netbook. It's not a bad little machine, even if it is somewhat underpowered and the keyboard is a little flimsy. However, after performing detailed cost analysis, which included Non-recurring Engineering (NRE) set-up costs, OS porting costs, driver development, branding, import costs and AmigaOS 4 licences we cannot get the end user price much under £500 (VAT inclusive), and that based on ordering batches of 1000 units at a time with a minimal sales margin. We think that is far too expensive for such an underpowered machine. We are still considering options but, at the moment we are leaning in another direction altogether."
http://amigaone.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/micro-mart-trevor-dickinson.pdf (page 2)
http://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1015592_637774986232890_905422189_o.jpg


Edit: Added 2nd source.

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 07.07.2013 - 00:37 ]

Quote:

Genesi dropped that idea years ago because of the chip lacking (which came a bit as a surprise to them) Cache Coherency, thus making it badly suited for what Genesi had in mind (which at one point even included MorphOS, in a customized form, although that option kind of faded away before becoming realistic). But I think they were of the opinion that the price was very good, as well as the potential flora of gadgets beyond the netbook. But in the end, neither the price nore the lack of cache coherency made the deal crash and burn, and caused Genesi to turn away from PPC and go into ARM territory instead, no it was other issues they had with the company behind the LimePC.

Update:

> In April, it has been publicly (albeit apparently unnoticed by most) revealed by A-Eon's
> Trevor Dickinson (i.e. remarkably not by Hyperion) that Hyperion's OS4 netbook was
> indeed supposed to be the LimeBook (surprise, surprise), and that the project has been
> cancelled in the meantime because the end user price of the netbook would have ended
> up at about 750 USD instead of the projected maximum of 500 USD.

Objection from ssolie:

"The official word from Hyperion is that the original Netbook project is on hold. Nothing has changed yet."
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=36695&forum=16&start=320#707482