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Please list the API calls that this 18% consists of.

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What the hell are you doing on this forum site, if all you want is Unix, or a clone of Unix/Linux?

Amiga users want an Amiga experience, and now that MorphOS has evolved beyond the original Amiga under pinnings, MorphOS users want a MorphOS experience on x64.

I don't understand why you are wasting your time, and our bandwidth here, if all you want to do is try to convince us to abandon MorphOS and switch to Unix/Linux?

I don't get why so many idiots want us amiga users to suport crap which is not binary compatible and has all drawback of orginal amiga os.
It is very simple - change to cpu which is unable to work in 32 bit big endian mode changes everything, there will be no longer binary compatybility, and all problems of orginal amiga os like lack of resource trackig, memory protection, multicore suport, drvivers, too much time on porting,
should be solved at time of ISA change.
MOS/Amiga OS on x86 should be just amiga gui i graphics on unix, everything below should be cut off.




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Of course most important part of AROS - ZUNE is not working not compatible crap.

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MUI isn't part of AmigaOS so your claim that "AROS isn't source compatible with AmigaOS" is nonsense for the most part.

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Idiots?
I could not care less about Amiga users.
Generally they are a foaming at the mouth pack of fanatics with a higher percentage of mental disfunction than the general population.
Your fixations are good proof of this.

The next move for MorphOS is about MorphOS, not Amiga OS.
Why don't you go back to playing with your toys.

And as to Linux, when I use it (and I have two Ununtu Mate systems), I use it for its inhetent advantages.
Not for anything related to the Amiga.

Whether or not you have noticed it, not a single statement in favor of your ideas has been posted.

So...who is the idiot?

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Exactly. The further MorphOS can distance itself from the ridiculous train wreck that was the "Amiga" post-Commodore the better. There is zero advantage in even considering backwards compatibility these days. Jettison it and don't look back, even if it means losing 100% chance of any source compatibility. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Geit once said that most existing code should recompile with minimal changes but I can't find it right now.

Andreas might have the link maybe?

As long as it doesn't rely on AmigaOS systems calls, why wouldn't it?

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All Amiga/MorphOS specific software relys on AmigaOS system calls Jim.

> Geit once said that most existing code should recompile with minimal
> changes but I can't find it right now. Andreas might have the link maybe?

http://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=11382&start=51

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Cheers Andreas! :)

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Actually, that is not true.
Software can be written to run under MorphOS that completely ignores Amiga system calls.
Certainly you must deal with MUI, but all of the game ports that rely on OpenGL use virtually no Amiga calls what so ever.

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That is funny.
OK, we've let this deteriorate to the point where Andreas is resorting to humor.
And if our most logical abandon agument...

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Show me one other person on this forum site that has suggested supporting any OS that will still have all of the original AmigaOS drawbacks. The current MorphOS has those drawbacks, because binary compatibility was a priority when MorphOS was first created. The x64 version of MorphOS will drop binary compatibility, and is aiming for full memory protection, SMP, resource tracking, and will use emulation to allow running of legacy software.

Your posts make less and less sense, the further you attempt to push this idea of using Unix for the x64 version of MorphOS.

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Exactly. These are ports from other platforms not Amiga/MorphOS specific programs.

> That is funny.

How is geit's posting I linked to funny?

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That is NOT what I get when I click that link.
I didn't think you would resort to humor.
But what I get IS quite humorous.

And this thread hasn't much to offer in information, intellegent conversation,or humor.

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YES! And MorphOS specific programming does not require AmigaOS 3.1 system calls either.
Franlkly, I hope for their devaluation in MorphOS X64.
What among them is essential for writing code?
And what among these twenty year or older routines makes them worthwhile?

All I want is a quick, streamlined OS that incorporates the best features of MorphOS.
AmigaOS, I can leave that to Hyperion's user base.

After all, we have the best programmers remaining in our community.
Why not trust them to give us a fresher base than would be the result of continuing to drag about the corpse of OS3.1?

> That is NOT what I get when I click that link.

You should click my link, not what is made of my link inside a quotation :-)

http://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=10&topic_id=8432&start=58

AROS x86 is not worth of use crap because it has no binary compatybility and has all drawback of orginal Amiga Os.
There is no reasons to repeat old mistakes that AROS team made.
Morphos x86 is still not released.
It still may be something realy worth of use.

> MorphOS specific programming does not require AmigaOS 3.1 system calls either.

I think it does. After all, MorphOS API is a superset of AmigaOS 3.1 API.

> these twenty year or older routines

Work on MorphOS started 18 years ago, so that's the age of the oldest routines inside MorphOS (unless we want to restart the debate about illegal use of original source code).

One can do quite alot without directly calling any function documented in the 3.1SDK.

@all
can we please keep AROS out of this : )

It makes no sense to discuss it if everyone is living in his own world, based on own experiences and needs..

There is enough room for everyone.

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ppcamiga1 is an equal opportunity offender who has also had harsh words for a potential MorphOS x64 and Vampire running AmigaOS.

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I am curious. Since this statement applies to pretty much anything and anybody, what are we allowed to discuss in our daily lives then?

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Indeed, there is. Plenty of MorphOS users use AROS and AmigaOS as well. Anybody bothering to read this discussion thread would find MorphOS users defending AROS from criticism and also recommending it to people who are particularly... price-conscious.

How dare they! Better leave AROS out of it