Yokemate of Keyboards
Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
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Probably if you refer to Opus 4 you better understand.
Actually, I do think I understand, but I just fail to see the point?
But then again, I have never appreciated that "FTP-program style" lister views, I have always thought of that as limiting. I prefer having any numbers of windows/listers that I currently need open, spread out across the screen, and copying/moving files (or launching apps, editing attributes, or whatever) freely between those. I can see how having that "source/destination" FTP-app style approach with buttons underneath would have been appealing in like, 1989, when desktops weren't really developed. But today I think it's much more flexible having a well developerd set of context menu items and keyboard shortcuts.
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let's suppose we have 2 listers opened, one is marked as source and the other as Destination. On Opus magellan the last clicked lister is marked as source, you can change source/destination with just a click on the window. If you select files from the source you can copy/move them on the destination lister just clicking only one button in the toolbar.
I would think it to be confusing when you are working with more than two windows/listers open though, having to remember in what order you clicked the windows? I would probably be sending files to the wrong directory at some point...
Anyway, the benefit of this is what? Saving one mouse click/key press?
I understand it's all down to a matter of personal taste, but I very much prefer chosing the files I want to copy/move, and then tell where I want them, not the other way around.
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On Ambient the process is slower
Really?
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you have to click the button on the toolbar that copy them in the clipboard first
I may be wrong, but I just tried with a huge folder, and I can se no trace of files being copied to clipboard after choosing "copy", none at all. Instead, chosing copy from the menu (or simply pressing ctrl-c) seems to be more like setting a flag, telling Ambient what action you want to do with the selected files, and then when you selects "paste" (or simply ctrl-v), that action performs the same copy as any other application (including magellan) would. Could be wrong though...?
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than go with the mouse to the destination lister/window and click there the paste button. I can survive using it in this way, but when you have to do a lot of files managing opus way to work is much faster and powerful.
So in Magellan, you:
1. Open/set the destination
2. Open/set the source
3. Selects the files from source
4. Select the action "copy" to perform the action
In Ambient, you:
1. Open the source
2. Select the files
3. Select the action "copy" (from menu or ctrl-c)
4. Open the destination
5. Selects "paste" (form menu or ctrl-v) to perform the action
= one more step.
Or:
1. Open the source
2. Open the destination
3. Select the files
4. Drag and drop from source to destination (this either copies or moves the files, depending on the source/destination location)
= the same amount of steps.
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Another feature that I miss from opus is the ftp handling
SSHFS (SFTP transparent) coming for MorphOS 3.x
Anyway, I understand everything is down to a matter of taste, opinion and old habbits, but I still don't really understand the necessity for MorphOS users to chip up towards a $5000 bounty that might (probably won't, it was tried before) in a couple of years result in something that Ambient in large pieces is already capable of doing. I'm not saying that Ambient is perfect, there are certainly room for added functionality, and Ambient *is* developing.
MorphOS is Amiga
done right! 
MorphOS NG will be AROS
done right!
