takemehomegrandma wrote:

"Yes indeed, but I agree with Senex that just supporting another Mac computer (albeit a lot more work with laptop related drivers and other SW that simply isn't present in a stationary computer) alone wouldn't warrant a jump to 3.0, so there should be some significant leap of some kind that is still undisclosed."

Since Andreas_Wolf noticed and posted about one of the MorphOS Dev. Team members using his G4 PowerBook with a wireless NIC PCMCIA card, maybe the Team will be able to include that functionality in version 3.0?

I certainly think that there have been enough advancements from MorphOS2.0 to now to warrant, with the completion of the first MorphOS laptop support, the jump from 2.x to 3.0.

@Geit

Thanks for the confirmation.

After Eliot's (at the time, unconfirmed) posting last night, I found myself visting Moobunny to see if anyone else was posting from Essen. Wow, haven't visited there in ages

Poor Wayne!

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D'oh! After last year's 2.6 release, I felt sure that 2.8 would be coming on 11/11/11 at 11:11:11

[ Edited by boot_wb 18.09.2011 - 23:02 ]

Andreas_Wolf,
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I bought a PowerBook 15" 1,5Ghz some months ago. Any idea how can I know if it's a Rev C, D, E or whatelse? I can't find a serial number on it and under MacOS it only gives me "Hardware UUID"..

[ Edited by Miky060 18.09.2011 - 20:37 ]

What's the screen resultion if it's 1440×960 you got type E, which is a good thing. What's the speed? 1.67mHz?

Assuming you've got ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 graphics card.. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G4



[ Edited by stephen_robinson 18.09.2011 - 19:45 ]

It is surely not a Rev E. My doubt is between C and D

CPU: 1,5Ghz
Screen resolution: 1280×854

There are various numbers on Apple-HW.....

PowerBook_5.6,5.7,5.8 and 5.9 are good
If it's 5.5 or lower you got a prob...
On the back there is also a number in the format A11xx don't have those at hand

The real dealbreaker is that those older PBs have non USB KBD and trackpads.

Does your trackpad support "2 finger gestures" ? -> thats USB

You might also want to hit "about this Mac" -> "more information" and look for USB-devices
Find your trackpad AND KBD there -> good
Find anything under ADB (Apple desktop bus) -> bad

Just checked, the supported 1.5GHz share the same number with the older 1.67GHz 15"
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_1.5_15_2.html

PowerBook_5.6 and A1106 is what you are looking for.

Mine is a 5.4 and there is no keyb or trackpad under USB

Is there anything under ADB? I've got a Ibook that's got the trackpad under USB, but no sign of the keyboard, I was wondering how that was attached. USB and they've not said anything or that ADB, which means it won't work

The last iBooks indeed had the 2finger trackpad found in the 1.67GHz PBs and that only exists as USB, but there KBD was still ADB.

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As MorphOS is not about misleading people with carefully written statements where you can read what you want... I think no MorphOS team member will kill me if I claim the OS will not be released for another CPU architecture in the next 12 months.
And, yes, I just made up this number so please do not try to read some hidden information... i.e. no, there will not be an ARM or x86 port in 12 months plus 1 day ;-)

In short, the 3.0 bump is simply for down-to-earth reasons.

Off Topic (but related to others discussing their G4 PowerBooks in this thread):

Just spent hours carefully taking apart my 17" 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook to replace the fans and heatsink assembly. It is an over 60 step process to get it out and another 60+ steps to get it back together. I think I will wait for tomorrow to put it back together, as bending over the table working to get it apart is all my back can stand tonight.

I am also upgrading the hard drive from 120gb to 320gb, so I will have to copy everything over from the smaller hdd, or re-install everything.

I was taking my time and being extra careful, as this is the computer that I use the most and don't want to make any mistakes that will kill it, or cause damage that will require more repairs. The reason for the replacement was that only one of the two fans was showing that it would run when the G4 started getting hot.

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@Miky

If it's <5,6 it is not going to be supported with the 3.0 release. It might get supported at some point, but I find that unlikely.

@stephen_robinson

We're not looking into iBooks at all at the moment. What's the point if PowerBooks are so much better?

Geit it was really nice to meet you too mate and other Team members. I will release interview with Frank Mariak later on, meaby this week as I need to catch up at work and still dying with flu :(

@Pampers

Will look forward to reading the interview.

Wish I could have made it myself too: maybe next year, I should be able to afford a holiday around then b

Wanted to go there, too. And while it is only a 1.5 hrs train distance I eventually stood home because of my now 6 weeks young daughter. Next year I will go there with her.

@Zylesea

Congratulations! I'm sure she's a gorgeous little handful. Magic times, not worth missing for anything.

Congratulations Zylesea on the recent birth of your daughter! Children are wonderful people until someone, or society screws them up. I hope you can protect yours as long as possible from that happening. Glad to see that you chose to spend time at home with your daughter, instead of a group of computer people. That is a good sign that she has a better chance to grow up well cared for.

@jaca

Sure PBs are better than iBs ...... but since there is no chance that the 12" PB will ever be supported one might opt for the 12" iB ;)

Thanks for the gratulations. It is an exciting time indeed. Hope to be a good father though, at least I try my best.
And one day I'll tell her the fairytale of the blue butterflies.

@Zylesea,

That is all any Father can do! It is not like children come with instruction manuals.

As I wrote there would be a bit more detailed post about the next MorphOS release, here it is...


The idea is MorphOS 3.0 would be the next public version and will introduce support for PowerBook (only 15" and 17" PowerBook5,6-5,9 which are the two latest revisions RevD and RevE):

- It will be a completely *free* (as in money free, nobody would have to pay) upgrade for already registered users.
- There will probably be some experimental wireless support for a few external cardbus cards featuring WPA/WPA2. That was demonstrated in Essen.
- There will be enhanced 3D drivers for the R2xx range of Radeon cards
- Proper use of AGP bus has been added where reasonable and available, helping on some low vmem issues with Mac mini for example
- There will be a builtin CD/DVD recording tool named Jalapeno.
- There will be various other enhancements which are not disclosed yet.

As a final note, G5 iMac/PowerMac support will not be released anytime soon. It was just some experiment. No development work is done on it. The focus is now on bug fixing and implementing remaining features for 3.0.

And, BTW, the MorphOS SDK was updated a few hours ago.
See http://www.morphos-team.net/news.html

Thank you foryour posting - now everybody should know what to expect for the next time. Sounds pretty promising. Will start to look for a good chance to buy a Powerbook over the next months.

jacadcaps,
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Thanks for the info even if it makes me sad. I did not buy one of the very last models because it seems they are the ones that suffer more about problems like the display issue..