Dual Core 1Ghz MorphPAD Tablet + MorphOS-Mobile!
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    > Freescale MobileGT
    > So there already exist some development for the Freescale
    > PPC CPU like the Efika5K2:)

    This statement on the MorphOS website seems somewhat badly phrased because the MPC5200B on the Efika 5200B *is* a MobileGT chip. What they actually mean is this:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3363&forum=2
    http://obligement.free.fr/articles/debutermorphospegasos.php#3.5

    > Basically it would be a Dual core efika with [...] 2gb ram
    > built into a tablet computer.

    "Dual core efika" you say? What would be the actual CPU in that device?
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    > MorphPAD.JPG

    That's still Android, isn't it? Why not fake a MorphOS screenshot in there beside the obvious fake butterfly? :-)
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  • »18.08.11 - 00:22
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  • lol I dont think you got the ispiration like me:


    That was just a copy of the tablet with a butterfly on it for you to grasp the idea of the MorphPAD.

    I think the e300 or e600 core??? whats happened to them are they PPC?

    Also just imagine a Coldfire 68K 266MHZ Tablet,,,,only kidding:):):):)

    lol... Mysterius DragonPAD



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    [ Edited by amber-inc 18.08.2011 - 02:03 ]
  • »18.08.11 - 01:02
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  • e600

    MPC7448 MPC8641 single core's upto like 1.3ghz


    e300

    MPC8358E MPC8360E upto 667mhz


    Would the e600 work in a small tablet?

    if not the e300 will do:)
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    > That was just a copy of the tablet with a butterfly on it
    > for you to grasp the idea of the MorphPAD.

    Yes, but since the main idea of the "MorphPAD" should be to run MorphOS on it the Android screen doesn't really help my imagination ;-)

    > I think the e300 or e600 core???

    The e300 doesn't exist as a dual-core chip, but the e600 core does. That said, an e600 based dual-core chip like the MPC8640D isn't suited for something like your "dual core efika" as it's consuming too much power.

    > whats happened to them

    There will probably be no new variants of the e300 core, and definitely not of the e600 core, and also no new chips based on existing variants of either core. The last chip based on e600 core was introduced 3 years ago, the (probably) last chips based on e300 core one year ago. In terms of non-automotive and non-industrial-control Power Architecture chips, Freescale is fully focussing on multicore QorIQ chips based on the e500/e5500/e6500 core range now.

    > are they PPC?

    Yes, they are.
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    > e600
    > MPC7448 MPC8641 single core's

    "Dual core efika" with a single core chip? You really lost me here.

    > e300
    > MPC8358E MPC8360E upto 667mhz

    Not dual-core either. Btw, fastest e300 based chips run at 800 MHz:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7001&start=230

    > Would the e600 work in a small tablet?

    For MPC86xx to work in a tablet you'd have to underclock them severely, else they'd just be too power consuming for tablet use.

    > if not the e300 will do:)

    I already hinted you at a tablet with e300:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=6775&start=129

    In case you didn't notice by now, MobileGT has e300 core.
  • »18.08.11 - 02:30
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  • Yes a 603e core basically G3 and G4 compatible:) e600 is perfect:)

    the fastest e300 can be clocked to 667mhz actually in single core configuration.

    I only talked about a dual core chip before you told me about MorphOS leaving secondary core idle:)



    The e300 is a nice chip:) at 667Mhz single core:) "it will do"

    But we wann look at the "e600" its better and can be clocked at 1.7ghz in dual config

    or upto 1.3ghz in single core config.


    Which ever way it works the e600 is better:)


    Regards. 8-)

    [ Edited by amber-inc 18.08.2011 - 05:13 ]
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    [ Edited by amber-inc 18.08.2011 - 05:17 ]
  • »18.08.11 - 04:16
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    "Dual core efika" with a single core chip? You really lost me here.


    What i meant was an Tablet Computer called MorphPAD what had a dual core cpu regardless of wether MOS can utilise the secondary core.

    The Dual core CPU's clock at a higher rate of 1.7ghz

    while the single core version is highest 1.3ghz

    Either way single or dual core the Dual Core one is better:)


    I just dont know why everybody seems so lost....


    Regards.
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    > Yes a 603e core basically G3 and G4 compatible:)

    What's that referring to?

    > e600 is perfect:)

    As I said, not for tablet use I'm afraid.

    > the fastest e300 can be clocked to 667mhz actually in single core configuration.

    No. As I said it's 800 MHz. Check the MPC8377E, MPC8378E and MPC8379E. And as I said, all e300 core based chips are single-core.

    > I only talked about a dual core chip before you told me about MorphOS leaving
    > secondary core idle:)

    I told you about MorphOS ignoring further cores in posting #3. You coined your "dual core efika" phrase only in posting #15. Care to explain how posting #15 is before posting #3?

    > The e300 is a nice chip:)

    The e300 is no chip at all, just a core. If you want e300 you'd have to decide for a chip incorporating this core, that means choosing from either MobileGT range of chips (400 MHz max) or PowerQUICC II Pro range of chips (800 MHz max).

    > at 667Mhz single core:) "it will do"

    667 MHz e300 would mean dismissing MobileGT for PowerQUICC II Pro anyway. So why not just go for 800 MHz?

    > we wann look at the "e600" its better

    Better performing than e300, yes, but also consuming more power. Too much for a tablet if you ask me.

    > and can be clocked at 1.7ghz in dual config or upto 1.3ghz in single core config.

    No, maximum clock frequency (without overclocking) for e600 based chips is 1.5 GHz as dual-core SoC (MPC8641D), 1.7 GHz as discrete single-core (MPC7448) and 1.5 GHz as single-core SoC (MPC8641).

    > Which ever way it works the e600 is better:)

    I very much doubt its suitability for a tablet. Btw, when did your plan change from importing pre-built ARM Cortex-A9 based tablets to developing your own PPC based tablet?
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    >> "Dual core efika" with a single core chip? You really lost me here.

    > What i meant was an Tablet Computer called MorphPAD what had a
    > dual core cpu regardless of wether MOS can utilise the secondary core.

    Yes, that's what I've understood. And that's also exactly why I don't understand that to my question what dual-core chips you have in mind for that you reply with e300 core (which does not exist in a dual-core configuration) and single-core chips based on e600.

    > The Dual core CPU's clock at a higher rate of 1.7ghz while the single core version
    > is highest 1.3ghz

    No, that's not true. See previous posting.

    > Either way single or dual core the Dual Core one is better:)

    Not for MorphOS.

    > I just dont know why everybody seems so lost....

    It could be because you're constantly switching your points, from wanting to use pre-built devices to developing your own device, from ARM to PPC, from dual-core to single-core to dual-core...
    I advise you to make up your mind in terms of what it actually is you want to *do* (not just talk about), how you're going to achieve this (business plan) and only then make a serious business proposition to the MorphOS Team.
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    and only then make a serious business proposition to the MorphOS Team.


    I guess the MorphOS team already has a prebuilt answer to pot smokers business plans.
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