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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    The OSX team back then was actually quite small compared to what they have now, or at least had up to recently for the current builds. I've often wondered what MorphOS/AmigaOS 4.X would be like if both teams came together and made a new unified OS taking the benefits of each and combining into an ultimate NG OS. Im sure it would never happen in a million years, but I am sure it would put Windows and OSX up to a challenge at least if they did it full time like they do.
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    Quote:

    Acill wrote:
    I've often wondered what MorphOS/AmigaOS 4.X would be like if both teams came together and made a new unified OS taking the benefits of each and combining into an ultimate NG OS.

    Remember the Homer Simpsons Car? Some features or benefits simply cancel each other if you tried to combine them.
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    zukow
    Posts: 645 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    So what can we get from OS4, or what is better (except PPP dialing and mediator support)?

    [ Edited by zukow 06.05.2020 - 19:52 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12150 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > So what can we get from OS4, or what is better […]?

    That thread has some ideas ;-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
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    zukow wrote:
    So what can we get from OS4, or what is better (except PPP dialing and mediator support)?


    For the most part, not a lot. The things that come to mind are the things that A-eon has done with the enhancer packs and newer video card support. The only thing keeping me from using my X5000 frombeing a primary MorphOS machine is the lack of 3D and support for the newer Radeon card in it. I guess i mostly meant the number of devs working together would be a lot more helpfull over having two good systems being made to compete.

    What prevents A-eon from compiling the enhancer packs for MorpgOS or allowing the video drivrs from being used with MorphOS anyway? Just them not liking it or the MorphOS devs not liking them?
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12150 from 2003/5/22
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    > What prevents A-eon from compiling the enhancer packs for MorpgOS
    > or allowing the video drivrs from being used with MorphOS anyway?

    I guess that the Enhancer components for the most part couldn't be made to run on MorphOS by mere recompilation.
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    Posts: 2096 from 2003/2/24
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    Acill wrote:
    What prevents A-eon from compiling the enhancer packs for MorpgOS or allowing the video drivrs from being used with MorphOS anyway? Just them not liking it or the MorphOS devs not liking them?


    I would say the primary reason for getting nothing from them for MorphOS is the lack of man power on both organizing and coding departments.

    They (especially Trevor) have always told that they want to support all Amiga related platforms, but it all seems to fall behind Matthew in practise, and he just seems to have too much to do. He has his own store to handle and that must take most of his time, and the little time he's left from that, there's huge amount of A-EON related projects under his supervising. And he just seems to scrape together only some of the most important OS4 related projects.

    I would also guess that their current coders aren't too motivated to code on MorphOS, and are hands full with their OS4 projects anyway. This could probably be fixed if some talented MorphOS coders would offer their help and would engage with the projects, but even then it could get stuck under the management.

    There have been some signs that they could be willing to do something for MorphOS side, like there was supposed to be a MorphOS version of PPaint, but it never got finished/published, and I don't think it's going to happen ever at this rate. I've also tried to get some of my programs to be released at AMIStore for OS4(!), but even that seems to be an impossible task (been trying for three years now). So everything just throttles there unless it's one of their flagship products.

    Maybe the best approach for getting support would be trying to cooperate with the respective developer directly? For example, Hans, who has developed some OS4 video drivers, seems to be a reasonable guy and maybe Bigfoot or some other MorphOS developer could exchange some information and findings directly with him?
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