Word Processor needed
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ok,.

    Cinnamoin Writer wont let me paste a picture.
    Final Writer no longer works. If I paste a picture it messes up bad.
    Cannot drag or move it.

    Which word processor actually still works in MOS?
    It would also be nice if it would save as html.
    Thanks
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    bash64 wrote:
    ok,.

    Cinnamoin Writer wont let me paste a picture.
    Final Writer no longer works. If I paste a picture it messes up bad.
    Cannot drag or move it.

    Which word processor actually still works in MOS?
    It would also be nice if it would save as html.
    Thanks



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    bash64 wrote:
    Final Writer no longer works. If I paste a picture it messes up bad.
    Cannot drag or move it.



    Whaaat? It does work here just fine still. I can add pictures and move/scale them. 8 bit rastering doesn't look that good always on screen, but it prints it fine at least.

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    Which word processor actually still works in MOS?
    It would also be nice if it would save as html.



    Maybe you should try Scriba, it's a new wordprocessor with many features (although bit simple basic features, but should do with pics still). If something is missing, email to author, he's doing frequent updates. Here is a little finnish article about it, if you want to check the screenshots ;)

    Pagestream also works from old programs.... but anyway, I mostly fire up FinalWriter still, because it just feels so nice :)
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    > Which word processor actually still works in MOS?

    Wordworth does.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6429&forum=9&start=16
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    you can also give a try to Scriba

    http://www.morphos-files.net/find.php?n&find=Scriba
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    I am using Final Writer 3 Nov 223 1994 release.
    Paste a picture and you cannot move or resize or control it.
    It was using its own screen and then I moved it to the workbench but that did not help.
    I so have PageStream 3 and could use it.
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    ok,
    I downloaded Scriba and its useful if only becuase it works.
    Doesn't do much more than that.
    Very slow.
    I think I will go back to using PageStream for docs and save them as PDFs.
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    bash64 wrote:
    I am using Final Writer 3 Nov 223 1994 release.
    Paste a picture and you cannot move or resize or control it.



    Ok.. I don't have that old Final Writer.. I'm using 97 version. It doesn't crash or anything else, just can't move pictures? You can quit the program normally etc?
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    I had forgot about Final Writer 97.
    I will find a copy and give it a try.
    Yes, everything else works, just cannot control a picture once you paste it in, none of the dragging points work.
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    > Maybe you should try Scriba, it's a new wordprocessor with many features [...].
    > If something is missing, email to author, he's doing frequent updates.

    Someone did and got not so encouraging answers:

    http://www.meta-morphos.org/viewtopic.php?topic=1246&forum=53
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Maybe you should try Scriba, it's a new wordprocessor with many features [...].
    > If something is missing, email to author, he's doing frequent updates.

    Someone did and got not so encouraging answers:

    http://www.meta-morphos.org/viewtopic.php?topic=1246&forum=53


    At least he took quite well my bugreport and feature request once :) But anyway, I like Scriba offering some special features rather than being stuck as yet another basic word processing program, even old 68k programs do that area just fine, so why to invent wheel again unless you have something new to offer. For example I was really disappointed to Cinnamon Writer. It seems to be focusing only to skin and fades etc eyecandy rather than any content.
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    @bash64

    There is no reliable solution for Word processing in MorphOS, unless you can accept working under major drawbacks. Recently I put out all available editors to my ultimate test and tried to open/edit my 200p. thesis: a document that utilizes many (if not most) modern features for a Word document, including many different formats of pictures (images), decorated tables, custom graphs, hyperlinks, headers, footers, custom margins & page layouts, many (automatically generated) index tables (i.e. for the references, table of contents etc) and many, many more. As far as I remember only Scriba managed to open the document (after 2 minutes of processing) but resulted in a messed up document and ultra slow typing, with most above features missing. Other editors (such as Wordworth) crashed, some made my system freeze. Well, being able to run an old copy of Final Writer is cool. Same for Scriba as one of the fastest and most compact native word editors. But still, if you are looking for something more than just typing your name and/or a paragraph with basic paragraph style options and unless you can compensate with next to zero modern features better avoid MorphOS.
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    Cool_amigaN wrote:
    @bash64

    There is no reliable solution for Word processing in MorphOS, unless you can accept working under major drawbacks. Recently I put out all available editors to my ultimate test and tried to open/edit my 200p. thesis


    And there is a difference between "Word processing" and "word processing". While processing Word documents the situation is pretty much like you described, but if user creates documents from scratch to be able store and print them it's a whole different situation.

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    But still, if you are looking for something more than just typing your name and/or a paragraph with basic paragraph style options and unless you can compensate with next to zero modern features better avoid MorphOS.


    What I've seen most users don't use much any special features on word processing software, even with Word. For many it's enough just to have sizes, fonts, few effects, images, tables and that's about it. For that there are alternatives.. and they even can do some more too :) It's a minority who write thesis with that much special features or something like that.
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    > I put out all available editors to my ultimate test and tried to open/edit my 200p. thesis:
    > a document that utilizes many (if not most) modern features for a Word document [...].
    > [...] editors (such as Wordworth) crashed, some made my system freeze.

    Trying to have word processors lacking MS Word format (read DOC and DOCX) import ability read MS Word format files makes no sense anyway. This has nothing to do with (non-)supported word processing features, as you can observe when trying to load a Wordworth file into MS Word.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    I have found that AmigaWriter is the best so far.
    Its fast and works well on MOS.
    I don't know if its compatible with OO or MSWord.
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    > AmigaWriter [...] I don't know if its compatible with OO or MSWord.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9170&forum=3&start=7
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Google Docs does all I need. Have you tried it?
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    yes on my dell laptop.

    a decent word processor would be nice for morphos. I can't imagine using g/docs on owb with an efika system. I have enough issues
    with it on macmini, endlessly monitoring the memory leak away. Simply I don't want to just get by with frankenoptions..
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    I'm just happy something useful at all works. In this case Google Docs. For years we have yearned for a good word processor and suddenly we actually got one. And it wasn't even made with Amigas in mind.


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    Acill schrieb:
    Google Docs does all I need. Have you tried it?


    Thing with google docs is that I would never ever put any confidential data online (hello NSA!). For other stuff it's indeed very useful.
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    Zylesea wrote:
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    Acill schrieb:
    Google Docs does all I need. Have you tried it?


    Thing with google docs is that I would never ever put any confidential data online (hello NSA!). For other stuff it's indeed very useful.


    But you'd store it on a machine running MorphOS with no security model whatsoever? ;)
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    >> Thing with google docs is that I would never ever put any confidential data online
    >> (hello NSA!). For other stuff it's indeed very useful.

    > But you'd store it on a machine running MorphOS with no security model whatsoever? ;)

    I think there's a difference between deliberately storing data on other people's computers and having data remotely copied from your own computer without consent. Besides, computers at home are usually behind routers today which makes intrusion much more difficult, no matter the computer's OS.
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    Good point on the private stuff i guess, but I dont use my MOS system for every day computing so I dont think of things like trouble with word processing much.

    Im going to pull out all my old disks and see what I have in terms of word processors and do some testing myself. The only thing that has kept me from even attempting it has been the total lack of quality printing. After all these years I find it hard to believe we still have suck a crappy printing system.
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    >> Thing with google docs is that I would never ever put any confidential data online
    >> (hello NSA!). For other stuff it's indeed very useful.

    > But you'd store it on a machine running MorphOS with no security model whatsoever? ;)

    I think there's a difference between deliberately storing data on other people's computers and having data remotely copied from your own computer without consent. Besides, computers at home are usually behind routers today which makes intrusion much more difficult, no matter the computer's OS.


    I actually try to send as much official stuff by email as possible rather than snail mail as then there can be no denials as to who said what and when.
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