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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Well if we ignore 2.7 as that just looks like a 'minor bug fix release to address various cpu/booting issues on PowerMacs' what do you want to see in the future?

    Obviously a G4 Powerbook release would be nice. Being able to use more than 1.5GB of memory, and maybe a use for all those nice second processor cores in the Dual core powermacs?
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    UDF support.
    SCSI and SATA controller support.
    R300 and R400 3D drivers.
    G5 support.

    And a long time from now - Qbox.
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    MaveRickPL
    Posts: 73 from 2009/12/30
    From: Chicago, IL.
    I need only WiFi driver for my MiniMac ... and my XMas will awesome :)

    Realy guys... may wish is real ?

    [ Edited by MaveRickPL on 2010/11/28 14:14 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Is the Airport extreme 'card' in the macMini the same as the Airport Extreme on the powerbook? And can be fitted to the emac and Powermacs for that matter?

    ie would the same drivers work?
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    Blasterreal
    Posts: 40 from 2007/3/30
    x86porting :) and visual MUI :) (someting micropsoft visual c)

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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:


    Jim schrieb:

    And a long time from now - Qbox.

    A classic ;-)

    Last time I was requesting QBox Tokai pointed me to sys:utilities/tips
    But I guess you would be as satified with that answer as I was. But it was funny - and is telling as well.
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    boot_wb
    Posts: 874 from 2007/4/9
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    An ALSA wrapper for AHI (or a replacement audio system) offering easy 3D sound implementation for game ports and multimedia would be scrummy.

    But, I just love what we have - anything new in the OS is a nice shiny surprise, and application support just keeps getting better.

    BluRay UDF support would be nice I suppose, but as I don't own a BluRay drive (or really need to with external hard drives being fast, reliable and pretty cheap) it's not high on my wishlist.

    Porting to another architecture will be a nice surprise if it ever happens, but I don't see the point in flogging the dead horse about it in the forums.

    Obviously Powerbook support would be great, but I'd rather see it done well than rushed to release. It'll be nice if/when it happens.
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    Quote:


    Zylesea wrote:
    Quote:


    Jim schrieb:

    And a long time from now - Qbox.

    A classic ;-)

    Last time I was requesting QBox Tokai pointed me to sys:utilities/tips
    But I guess you would be as satified with that answer as I was. But it was funny - and is telling as well.


    I looked there. I don't understand the relevence.
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    amigadave
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    Quote:


    stephen_robinson wrote:
    Is the Airport extreme 'card' in the macMini the same as the Airport Extreme on the powerbook? And can be fitted to the emac and Powermacs for that matter?

    ie would the same drivers work?


    I took the Airport card from my Titanium PowerBook (1GHz last model before going to Aluminum) which had died it's last death (power, video, or both for the second or third time), and put it into my G4 PowerMac MDD. It works fine. I don't know about the MacMini, as I have not yet pulled one apart (but will be doing so very soon as my Intel MacMini just quit working). I would think that the Airport card in the MacMini is probably smaller, but perhaps not, as space inside a PowerBook is just as scarce as the space in the MacMini.

    If I had to choose which of my MacMini's I would want to fail first, I am glad it was the Intel Mini and not my G4 Mini with MorphOS on it. I will let you know if the Airport inside the Intel MacMini is the same as the one inside the PowerBook and PowerMac.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    amyren
    Posts: 219 from 2010/5/15
    From: Norway
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    MaveRickPL wrote:
    I need only WiFi driver for my MiniMac ... and my XMas will awesome :)

    Realy guys... may wish is real ?
    [ Edited by MaveRickPL on 2010/11/28 14:14 ]


    I would like that too. But from what I have read earlier they dont see it worth the trouble to support it, if I remember correctly it was due to that Apple did use a lot of different parts for the wifi for different models of the MacMini. So to make sure that it would work for all minis they would need to make drivers for many different chipsets.

    I think the fastest way to get wifi on your MacMini will be to get a cheap wifi-bridge. I did get a Vonets VAP11G, which works fine. Its a small unit that can be powered from an USB port and is told to use only 1.5 watt. Its a china product so you might find it under many different names, but a search on ebay for VAP11G or "dreambox wifi" will find some starting from USD20, or USD32 incl shipping.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12164 from 2003/5/22
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    > if I remember correctly it was due to that Apple did use a lot of different parts
    > for the wifi for different models of the MacMini. So to make sure that it would
    > work for all minis they would need to make drivers for many different chipsets.

    You don't remember it correctly.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6869&forum=32&post_id=70592#70592
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 423 from 2005/4/9
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    "Last time I was requesting QBox Tokai pointed me to sys:utilities/tips
    But I guess you would be as satified with that answer as I was. But it was funny - and is telling as well.



    I looked there. I don't understand the relevence."

    the little blue box fella is the QBox (he is the semi-offical mascot of morphos:). he can also be seen on the various morphos cd's at various shows, etc...
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Thanks Saddam,
    And to think I went through all the tips w/o paying attention to the little animated box character with the Q on top waving at me.

    Well if that's the closest we get to a Qbox I'll have to accept the best Amiga derivative OS (the Abox).
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Duno whether QBox will ever come. I guess nobody really knows. If you ask MorphOS-Team they say nobody's working on it, nothing is planned for now and ABox is the thing. I think that's it basically. And I think it is okay for now.
    But the QBox *idea* coud be recycled to tackle those things not feasible with ABox.
    E.g. SMP or MP or a way to endianess independence as I put to discussion here:
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6570&forum=3#66869

    When I talked in IRC and Moo about that some time ago MorphOS developers put me quite straightly dow to earth. Not a bad idea for sure, but who's providing the resources to actually do so? MorphOS is a part time project with very limited resources. It is just unrealistic at this situation.
    Understoood.
    But I also guess it is okay to think a bit about it from time to time.Conditions may change over time. So for a "dream feature list" it is probably okay. But so is world peace.
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    Quote:


    Zylesea wrote:
    Duno whether QBox will ever come. I guess nobody really knows. If you ask MorphOS-Team they say nobody's working on it, nothing is planned for now and ABox is the thing. I think that's it basically. And I think it is okay for now.
    But the QBox *idea* coud be recycled to tackle those things not feasible with ABox.
    E.g. SMP or MP or a way to endianess independence as I put to discussion here:
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6570&forum=3#66869

    When I talked in IRC and Moo about that some time ago MorphOS developers put me quite straightly dow to earth. Not a bad idea for sure, but who's providing the resources to actually do so? MorphOS is a part time project with very limited resources. It is just unrealistic at this situation.
    Understoood.
    But I also guess it is okay to think a bit about it from time to time.Conditions may change over time. So for a "dream feature list" it is probably okay. But so is world peace.


    It a pity there isn't a backer for this. With the efficiency of the Quark kernel, and expanded MorPHOS would be a monster.
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    DiskDoctor
    Posts: 306 from 2009/4/17
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    My only comment here would be no WiFi no MorphOS. I won't resign from connectivity while using a notebook.

    I plan getting Sam440 in January but I will keep my fingers crossed on MorphOS notebook release with the WiFi. My mac mini got broken this year and I needed money so I sold my MorphOS machine. But I like MacOSX, I also love MorphOS so try to get one when two conditions are met.

    The good thing about notebook+wifi release is that it's then
    1) fully portable (unless someone counts 3G but)
    2) by replacing HDD and CD-ROM one gets a fully refurbished machine
    3) still one might use MacOSX (Tiger or Leopard I guess)

    So I really hope this will happen soon. Whether or not, my next MorphOS machine will be portable and wifi-enabled, and I expect it in 2011 :-D
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    @discdoctor

    sorry to ask, but why a sam440? for its price you can get several minis, pmacs or even pbooks, or if you want to use os4, why not a peg2 then, more capable not to mention cheaper. the sam460 looks better but its price almost double of a 440...
    just asking:)
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    sadddam wrote:
    @discdoctor

    sorry to ask, but why a sam440? for its price you can get several minis, pmacs or even pbooks, or if you want to use os4, why not a peg2 then, more capable not to mention cheaper. the sam460 looks better but its price almost double of a 440...
    just asking:)


    That is a good question. Less powerful hardware and a less polished OS (which I just found out doesn't have an OWB port). Why?
    I do sympathize with the desire for wifi though. A tethered notebook is little more than a compact PC.
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    It (OS4.1) has an OWB port.

    It's good, not as good as MorphOS version, but certainly usable.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > which I just found out doesn't have an OWB port

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7001&forum=3&post_id=72299#72299

    Edit: stephen_robinson was faster.

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf on 2010/11/29 21:21 ]
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    rNx
    Posts: 35 from 2010/10/26
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    1) FTP/SFTP integration
    2) Plain text buttons in panels (how hard this can be?)
    3) Hexview in multiview or Ambient
    4) SATA controller support
    5) Fix for sungem_eth dropping the connection
    6) More consistent MIME type functions (for e.g. archives)

    Thats about it.
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    stephen_robinson wrote:
    It (OS4.1) has an OWB port.

    It's good, not as good as MorphOS version, but certainly usable.


    Yes, I just relized that what a poster on another site meant was that the AOS4 OWB is not being updated and that it doesn't support HTML5 or any of the new features Fab has introduced on the MorphOS version.

    [ Edited by Jim on 2010/11/30 4:44 ]
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    MaveRickPL
    Posts: 73 from 2009/12/30
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    @amyren Thanks for info. I already order one!
    Do I need plug in this Dreambox to PC for configurate it or I will do it on MorphOS and OWB ?
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2326 from 2003/2/24
    Configured via webinterface, OWB is sufficient for this task.

    Edit:

    Confused by similar threads in different forums....

    This one is known to be "OWB-compatible":


    http://www.kmelektronik.de/shop/index.php?show=product_info&ArtNr=16111


    Should be true for other similar devices, but "should" is just should .....

    [ Edited by Kronos on 2010/11/30 1:33 ]
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    4) SATA controller support


    Morphos has had SATA support since 2.5 iirc? for SIL sata pci cards.. on peg2 that is.


    I'd like to see off the top of my head:

    1.a built in torrent client with gui that works otb.

    2. Video Preview Thumbnails in ambient (as promised forever ago)

    3. R300 radeon 3d drivers

    4. RTCW release

    5. Integrated FW stack (helios) support with gui for config

    6. an Expose' type window manager

    7. Built in UAE support so you can double click an .adf and it just works.

    8. Better ASL prefs

    9. hardware accelerated CAIRO libs for OWB

    10. Rename "owb"

    :-P
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